Plans for "crisis house" for people with mental illness

[gnvqsos]

It is appalling how the people of Nether Edge have en masse abused this group of people in society. I hope they think of this when they open their Christmas cards, with their hand crafted letter opener from Oxfam. And pull their Oxfam Crackers on Christmas Day, and laugh gaily at the gifts they receive of 'a goat' for a poor person in Africa. It's easy to feel virtuous about helping the poor when they are far away and there is no possibility you may see them. I hope with the opening of each Christmas card and the pulling of each Christmas cracker, they remember the Oxfam slogan, Think Global, Act Local. And they think about the people without families, or brightly lit homes to go to, who have wished for many years for a house to go to, when they need a bit of TLC. I hope they think about what they have written and the damage it has done. 'God Bless you all, each and every one' (Dickens, A Christmas Carol).

 

Clearly you are writing in the guise of Scrooge ,but is it the hand of the old or new version?It is too metaphysical for my comprehension.

[altus]

It is appalling how the people of Nether Edge have en masse abused this group of people in society. I hope they think of this when they open their Christmas cards, with their hand crafted letter opener from Oxfam. And pull their Oxfam Crackers on Christmas Day, and laugh gaily at the gifts they receive of 'a goat' for a poor person in Africa. It's easy to feel virtuous about helping the poor when they are far away and there is no possibility you may see them. I hope with the opening of each Christmas card and the pulling of each Christmas cracker, they remember the Oxfam slogan, Think Global, Act Local. And they think about the people without families, or brightly lit homes to go to, who have wished for many years for a house to go to, when they need a bit of TLC. I hope they think about what they have written and the damage it has done. 'God Bless you all, each and every one' (Dickens, A Christmas Carol).

 

Can you stop generalising please - otherwise you're no better that the people who think everyone with a mental health problem is a budding axe murderer.

 

That goes for the rest of you as well.

[LucyLockets]

40 households from Nether Edge have written public letters to the council as seen here

 

http://publicaccess.sheffield.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=neighbourComments&keyVal=MCFYFLNYFY000

 

containing uninformed prejudiced and pejorative writing about this group of people in society. They have very forcefully argued that they do not want these people in their community. 40 households is representative of as many as 200 people, given that the standard family has 2.4 children. This is statistically significant. The letters are from people across the spectrum of professions. If as you say this does not represent the views of the people of Nether Edge where are the letters of support? No comment is a powerful communication, just as doing nothing can impact as significantly as doing something.

 

If this statistically significant sample does not represent the views of the people of Nether Edge as you say, where are the letters of support?

[mikem8634]

40 households from Nether Edge have written public letters to the council as seen here

 

http://publicaccess.sheffield.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=neighbourComments&keyVal=MCFYFLNYFY000

 

containing uninformed prejudiced and pejorative writing about this group of people in society. They have very forcefully argued that they do not want these people in their community. 40 households is representative of as many as 200 people, given that the standard family has 2.4 children. This is statistically significant. The letters are from people across the spectrum of professions. If as you say this does not represent the views of the people of Nether Edge where are the letters of support? No comment is a powerful communication, just as doing nothing can impact as significantly as doing something.

 

If this statistically significant sample does not represent the views of the people of Nether Edge as you say, where are the letters of support?

 

How many households are there in Nether Edge?

[pippadoll]

Many complaints are from couples at the same address. So far fewer than 40 households.

[altus]

40 households from Nether Edge have written public letters to the council as seen here

 

http://publicaccess.sheffield.gov.uk/online-applications/applicationDetails.do?activeTab=neighbourComments&keyVal=MCFYFLNYFY000

 

containing uninformed prejudiced and pejorative writing about this group of people in society. They have very forcefully argued that they do not want these people in their community. 40 households is representative of as many as 200 people, given that the standard family has 2.4 children. This is statistically significant. The letters are from people across the spectrum of professions. If as you say this does not represent the views of the people of Nether Edge where are the letters of support? No comment is a powerful communication, just as doing nothing can impact as significantly as doing something.

 

If this statistically significant sample does not represent the views of the people of Nether Edge as you say, where are the letters of support?

You've just demonstrated you have no idea what statistically significant means. 7100 households in Nether Edge - not 40.

 

And that's ignoring the fact that people living more that a couple of streets away, say 100m, are unlikely to have even heard of it, let alone be bothered by it. Add to that, people tend to write in support of things they strongly support not things they just don't strongly object to. Your assumption that everyone who hasn't written in support of this facility is strongly against it is false. How many houses are even within 100m of 29 Thornsett Road? Is the 40 you mentioned even a majority of that area?

[LucyLockets]

Clearly you are writing in the guise of Scrooge ,but is it the hand of the old or new version?It is too metaphysical for my comprehension.

 

Clearly the past, present and future.

Edited December 13, 2012 by LucyLockets

[alchresearch]

You've just demonstrated you have no idea what statistically significant means. 7100 households in Nether Edge - not 40.

 

And that's ignoring the fact that people living more that a couple of streets away, say 100m, are unlikely to have even heard of it, let alone be bothered by it. Add to that, people tend to write in support of things they strongly support not things they just don't strongly object to. Your assumption that everyone who hasn't written in support of this facility is strongly against it is false. How many houses are even within 100m of 29 Thornsett Road? Is the 40 you mentioned even a majority of that area?

 

Sadly the minority tend to get their way. Look at union voting. The turnout is usually around 20-30%. Yet if that percentage is in the majority, they strike.

 

And people only make the effort to complain, not praise.

[Plain Talker]

You've just demonstrated you have no idea what statistically significant means. 7100 households in Nether Edge - not 40.

 

And that's ignoring the fact that people living more that a couple of streets away, say 100m, are unlikely to have even heard of it, let alone be bothered by it. Add to that, people tend to write in support of things they strongly support not things they just don't strongly object to. Your assumption that everyone who hasn't written in support of this facility is strongly against it is false. How many houses are even within 100m of 29 Thornsett Road? Is the 40 you mentioned even a majority of that area?

 

I live less than 200 metres (about 150) from the building, and I'm not fazed about it, one little bit.

[sarah_s]

There is a very simple solution to the question "where to house people such as this" and its simple.

 

Simply build these hostels at Dore, Totley, Whirlowdale, Lodge Moor. After all, it tends to be the wealthy liberal elite that support this sort of thing.

 

And that goes for all the other ideas, drug addicts, alcoholics, paedos and of course holding centres for immigrants. Build all these things/or place all these things where the wealthy champain sipping liberals live.

 

Then everyone is happy.