Carmine Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 "King Arthur": rubbish, discuss... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saifa Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 I wouldn't go so far as to call it rubbish but i was dissapointed considering.. 1) I'm a sucker for owt Arthurian. and 2) It was the same kids that did Pirates of the Carribean which I thought was amazing. So I went expecting it to be fantastic and it weren't, it was....alright I suppose. Liked the Dark Age revisionary thing but that was about the only thing new or challenging in the whole film. And walling up Keira Knightley? Were they all eunuchs back then or summat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 They stole the name 'King Arthur' and that was about it. Demythologising the whole Arturian legend is rather pointless - typical revisionism from Hollywood. By retelling the stories with a 'modern' tilt the script writers and producers have missed the point. Merlin is supposed to be a magician; the stories, as recounted by Mallory and others, are set in a mythical 'non-period' of history because they are supposed to be legends. How would they explain away the stories of the Holy Grail, etc. central to Arthurian legend? By taking this realistic approach they attempt to remove another aspect of the magical from an increasingly prosaic and grey world. I WANT to believe in a bunch of folks who are looking for the Holy Grail. I like the associated story of the Fisher King and redemption, the Green Knight, etc. I don't want Arthurian Legend told like Die Hard in armour. Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grissom Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 Originally posted by Carmine "King Arthur": rubbish, discuss... Yes ! Found the firast 45 mins way too dull. Even the ice scene was naff. Film could have done with some blood and gore for realism. Wont go into the concocted storyline etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carmine Posted August 18, 2004 Author Share Posted August 18, 2004 I'm a HUGE fan of the whole mystique and wonder of the Authurian Cycles, I find that they have such far reaching connections with the character of the nation and the ideals of an age which never was. The tagline for the film set my teeth on edge from the start, there is not "real" Arthur, that's the bloody point. A myth only retains its power whilst it remains an idea passed from one person to the next, an ideal aspired to in an imperfect world. When a person attempts to pin such a thing down it will dissipate like mist in their hands. It is not the achievement of perfection that is important, but the quest itself...therein lies the true meaning of the Grail. There were Sarmatian cavalry units on the wall, there was a warrior named Artorius, there was probably a great leader who ruled from Cadbury Hill and we know that Glastonbury Tor was once an island and warriors were buried in boats facing the great landmark. But none of these things alone can explain or dismiss the body of myth that has grown over the centuries. Excalibur is still the best example of an Authurian adaptation in my mind. It sticks to the knights and damsels interpretation and doesn't try to reinvent the wheel...But then my favourite novels on the subject are Cornwell's Warlord Chronicles...different versions, and neither claims to be the sole true version of the tales. Hollywood creates fiction and pretends has presented facts, the sad thing is that some people will have come away thinking that this was an authoritative historical outing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alchresearch Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 The only true King Arthur film is this one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeP Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 Also, just like the peasant in the Monty Python film, I do have to question the legitimacy of any system of government that's based around swords distributed by strange women lying in ponds. Joe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Modesty Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 Horses for courses. I quite get off on mad things being made believable. ( 2001, Last Temptation Of Christ. just two that come to mind. ) Your all a bunch of Tolken lovers, runaway, runaway, them DRAGONS are chasing us:banana: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
igm1 Posted August 18, 2004 Share Posted August 18, 2004 Originally posted by JoePritchard Also, just like the peasant in the Monty Python film, I do have to question the legitimacy of any system of government that's based around swords distributed by strange women lying in ponds. Joe come on joe, you're fooling yourself- we're living in a dictatorship.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Saifa Posted August 19, 2004 Share Posted August 19, 2004 Excalibur is still the best example of an Authurian adaptation in my mind Aint that the truth Carmine! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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