Jared O'Mara On Trial - Now Found Guilty

[HeHasRisen 3,410]

57 minutes ago, RollingJ said:

More likely the bent CLP trained him in what to say.

Thats some accusation. I am inclined to go along with the Ukdobby version of events, he fooled a lot of people, add to that they didnt seriously think they could unseat Clegg so didnt bother putting a decent candidate up.

[RollingJ 2,048]

5 minutes ago, HeHasRisen said:

Thats some accusation. I am inclined to go along with the Ukdobby version of events, he fooled a lot of people, add to that they didnt seriously think they could unseat Clegg so didnt bother putting a decent candidate up.

Fair enough, but I was under the (obviously mistaken) impression that  the idea is to present to the electorate a viable candidate, and with all due respect to O'Mara, he clearly didn't fit that criteria.

[HeHasRisen 3,410]

Just now, RollingJ said:

Fair enough, but I was under the (obviously mistaken) impression that  the idea is to present to the electorate a viable candidate, and with all due respect to O'Mara, he clearly didn't fit that criteria.

I suspect there was a little bit of "positive discrimination" involved too, bit like with the all woman lists. "Ooh he is disabled, that ticks a box".

[RollingJ 2,048]

He was still totally unsuitable - don't they do proper assessments, or is that asking too much these days?

[sheffbag 230]

52 minutes ago, RollingJ said:

He was still totally unsuitable - don't they do proper assessments, or is that asking too much these days?

not when it comes to ticking inclusivity boxes 

[RollingJ 2,048]

1 minute ago, sheffbag said:

not when it comes to ticking inclusivity boxes 

Total stupidity, then.

[max 13]

4 hours ago, RollingJ said:

More likely the bent CLP trained him in what to say.

Did you know that the CLP, in Sheffield Hallam's case, consisted of nearly 2,000 individual members at the time of Jared's election? How can a body of people that large be bent?

[RollingJ 2,048]

17 minutes ago, max said:

Did you know that the CLP, in Sheffield Hallam's case, consisted of nearly 2,000 individual members at the time of Jared's election? How can a body of people that large be bent?

OK - that I didn't know, but there will be a 'core' of active individuals, and it will be them who effectively make the decisions. They may not even be 'bent', but the selection of O'Mara as the candidate calls into question their competence/intent -IMHO, of course.

[sheffbag 230]

48 minutes ago, max said:

Did you know that the CLP, in Sheffield Hallam's case, consisted of nearly 2,000 individual members at the time of Jared's election? How can a body of people that large be bent?

It was nothing to do with CLP.  The chair of SH CLP confirms this in the link below. They were not told of Jareds nomination or that he himself had decided to stand nor were they informed of the process that was used to select him.

https://labourlist.org/2019/08/what-labour-should-learn-from-jared-omaras-selection/

 

As it was a snap election the decision was made by the NEC entirely based on applications

[geared 320]

Just now, sheffbag said:

As it was a snap election the decision was made by the NEC entirely based on applications

 

So a small committee decided who got to stand?

[HeHasRisen 3,410]

2 minutes ago, geared said:

 

So a small committee decided who got to stand?

Well yes, how can you expect local parties to organise hustings, a vote etc...at such short notice, the election was called 19th April for the 8th June, thats less than 7 weeks and you have to give the candidate enough time to campaign.

[RollingJ 2,048]

5 minutes ago, sheffbag said:

It was nothing to do with CLP.  The chair of SH CLP confirms this in the link below. They were not told of Jareds nomination or that he himself had decided to stand nor were they informed of the process that was used to select him.

https://labourlist.org/2019/08/what-labour-should-learn-from-jared-omaras-selection/

 

As it was a snap election the decision was made by the NEC entirely based on applications

Thanks for  that  information, @sheffbag- so it was NEC incompetence? Sorry, Sheffield Hallam CLP.

3 minutes ago, geared said:

 

So a small committee decided who got to stand?

An out-of-touch one at that.