Mister Gee   830 #7225 Posted December 31, 2023 11 minutes ago, geared said: The longer it goes on the more people are going to be asking "where is the money"?  Not from promised growth or any of that nonsense that failed to materialise. Simply where is all the money we were saving not paying into the EU coffers?  £350 million a week wasn't it? Where is that? That's a huge amount of money. Where has it gone?   That’s a good question pal, maybe some of those who were most fervently posting about the financial benefits of leaving the EU could tell us? I’ll start with this one. https://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/topic/471637-consequences-of-brexit-part-9-read-first-post-before-posting/page/6/?tab=comments#comment-8325272  Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Axe   836 #7226 Posted December 31, 2023 31 minutes ago, geared said: The longer it goes on the more people are going to be asking "where is the money"?  Not from promised growth or any of that nonsense that failed to materialise. Simply where is all the money we were saving not paying into the EU coffers?  £350 million a week wasn't it? Where is that? That's a huge amount of money. Where has it gone?    Unfortunately the money will have been used to help manage the covid pandemic. It took a huger amount of money to finance dealing with the covid pandemic. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Organgrinder   1,946 #7227 Posted December 31, 2023 6 minutes ago, Axe said: Unfortunately the money will have been used to help manage the covid pandemic. It took a huger amount of money to finance dealing with the covid pandemic. Every country had Covid.  How are they managing to pay for it ?   Probably by running their economies properly.  What happened to the 5 pledges ?   he knew about Covid when he made the pledges.   Only one pledge materialised and it was the B of E who did that by raising interest rates.  The Tories are going to spend the rest of their lives blaming Covid and Ukraine. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
geared   321 #7228 Posted December 31, 2023 Christ, it's nearly 2024 and we're still trying to use Covid as an excuse?   1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Axe   836 #7229 Posted December 31, 2023 22 minutes ago, Organgrinder said: Every country had Covid.  How are they managing to pay for it ?   Probably by running their economies properly.  What happened to the 5 pledges ?   he knew about Covid when he made the pledges.   Only one pledge materialised and it was the B of E who did that by raising interest rates.  The Tories are going to spend the rest of their lives blaming Covid and Ukraine. Every country has had to borrow money to pay to manage covid.   3 minutes ago, geared said: Christ, it's nearly 2024 and we're still trying to use Covid as an excuse?   I just pointed out the money saved by not contributing to the EU budget has been dwarfed by the money needed to deal with covid.  It took 61 years to repay the money borrowed from the USA to finance WW2.  Covid has not ended unlike WW2. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Organgrinder   1,946 #7230 Posted December 31, 2023 (edited) 5 minutes ago, Axe said: Every country has had to borrow money to pay to manage covid.   I just pointed out the money saved by not contributing to the EU budget has been dwarfed by the money needed to deal with covid.  It took 61 years to repay the money borrowed from the USA to finance WW2.  Covid has not ended unlike WW2. It doesn't alter the fact that every Tory promise is always broken and an excuse presented instead to explain the failure.  What happened to the 5 pledges which you never want to talk about ?   Sunak knew about Covid when he made them  You have an excuse for every eventuality and for every broken promise but all we ever get IS FAILURE.  Everybody has seen through all your feeble excuses for failure.  Edited December 31, 2023 by Organgrinder Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
m williamson   802 #7231 Posted December 31, 2023 41 minutes ago, Organgrinder said:   The Tories are going to spend the rest of their lives blaming Covid and Ukraine. And Labour, don't forget them. You could hardly expect a government to sort out the problem that they inherited in 13 years could you?  I mean they've had a lot on their plate you know. There have been PPE contracts to sign, it isn't easy to decide which mate ( with no experience in the PPE trade ) you're giving one to while having to disappoint others. Contracts for ferries to a company with no ships. Titles to donors and mates and Russian KGB connected pals. Its been all go at Westminster.  We should have a little sympathy.   1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Prettytom   1,648 #7232 Posted December 31, 2023 1 hour ago, Axe said: Unfortunately the money will have been used to help manage the covid pandemic. It took a huger amount of money to finance dealing with the covid pandemic. Absolutely. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Prettytom   1,648 #7233 Posted January 26 Anyway. This Brexit thing is going rather well, don’t you think?  https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-68098177  https://www.itv.com/news/2024-01-25/traffic-gridlock-and-14-hour-queues-await-tourists-entering-to-europe-mps-told  https://www.theguardian.com/science/2024/jan/25/eu-plan-medicine-stockpile-uk-record-shortages  https://news.sky.com/story/roses-are-red-violets-are-blue-fears-of-shortages-on-valentines-day-over-brexit-checks-with-the-eu-13056060  Control well and truly taken back. Good work everyone Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Organgrinder   1,946 #7234 Posted January 26 It should be quite obvious to even the biggest fan of Brexit that Brexit has failed, is costing us money, and is holding back our economic prosperity. The government admitted it long ago and the promised trade deals are much harder to clinch than we were told and proof of the failure. It's just a case of what do we do next, or how long do we faff about like this whilst our fortunes dissipate, before we realise - it was a mistake and we need to salvage what we can and change course.  1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
geared   321 #7235 Posted January 26 Worth remembering the good people of Dover voted pretty comprehensively for Brexit. A place that pretty much only exists due to it's proximity to Europe, where many people's jobs and livelihood will be linked to smooth trade across the channel.  That's the kind of absolute meat that thought it was a good idea. 1 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Axe   836 #7236 Posted February 1 Surprise Surprise none of the anti Brexit and anti democratic contributors have commented about the Northern Ireland situation and the new agreement with the DUP. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...