Mink in Sheffield

[spider1]

On 17/04/2019 at 12:14, lil-minx92 said:

Its  a big dirty rat! It probably has a nest under your shed. Just leave some veg outside for it so it doesnt have to gnaw through the wall.

Yes its a rat but more than one perfect enviroment tor them / Get a rat trap or make one yourself  easy enough

[Squimage]

Sorry to hear of your daughter's horrendous find. One of my relatives used to hunt mink because of how destructive they can be. The weapon he has now is not powerful enough to kill them humanly so he builds traps. You can buy them at around 10-15 pounds each.

Edited February 14, 2020 by Squimage

[markfor]

Mink voracious predators. Very bad for our native animals!!!

[Guest makapaka]

On 14/02/2020 at 07:31, Centrepin said:

The RSPCA can't prosecute, they're a charity with no official powers.

 

Basically they couldn't care less about Mink as they get them no publicity and therefore no income. 

 

Mink are non indigenous species which as you state are killing machines and are decimating our native species. There are also many other non indigenous species causing havoc to the natural balance. Due to the actions of the few misguided soles working under the animal/bird protection and running hate campaigns against anyone taking action you rarely hear about these species.

 

I'm sorry for your daughter, it's not anything I would like to find. A pet, any pet is part of the family and doesn't deserve that. I hope she gets over it soon.

I always find this sort of thing a bit unsettling.

 

the mink didn’t upset the natural balance - we did - we brought them here so we could kill them to make nice coats.

 

we decided to put rabbits in huts as sitting ducks - not the mink.

 

we decimate habitats to build Barrat  homes - not grey squirrels. 

 

and now people want to kill the mink - for eating things to survive.

 

wrong in my eyes.

Edited February 15, 2020 by makapaka

[Annie Bynnol]

On 14/02/2020 at 07:31, Centrepin said:

The RSPCA can't prosecute, they're a charity with no official powers.

 

 

The RSPCA do have certain legal powers and are legally allowed, can and do bring prosecutions to prevent cruelty.

"The authority of the RSPCA Council Trustees to institute criminal proceedings pursuant to the Royal
Society for the Prevention of Cruelty to Animals Act 1932 is delegated to the Prosecutions Department...".

 

There have been several controversial cases in recent times where the RSPCA have been accused of being to eager to prosecute. 

 

[Annie Bynnol]

3 hours ago, makapaka said:

I always find this sort of thing a bit unsettling.

 

the mink didn’t upset the natural balance - we did - we brought them here so we could kill them to make nice coats.

 

we decided to put rabbits in huts as sitting ducks - not the mink.

 

we decimate habitats to build Barrat  homes - not grey squirrels. 

 

and now people want to kill the mink - for eating things to survive.

 

wrong in my eyes.

Introducing and removing species be, it plant or animal, can and does effect habitats and their ecology.

There are no natural habitats left in England, most of which this is due to human intervention over 2000+

 

With so much of the natural ecology missing, human intervention has always been needed.

The type and amount of intervention is subject to hot debate, very little of it rational, most of it knee jerk and rarely holistic. Economics, environmentalist politics, local politics, short term and incomplete planning and continuity make things harder.

 

Removing an invasive species is sometimes essential and in a few cases a legal requirement due to health or economic damage, sometimes necessary in order to protect a natural habitat, sometimes needed to encourage the reestablishment of a natural habitat.

 

Not removing mink would undermine the ability to re create the natural succession of a habitat.

 

 

 

 

[Guest makapaka]

4 hours ago, Annie Bynnol said:

Introducing and removing species be, it plant or animal, can and does effect habitats and their ecology.

There are no natural habitats left in England, most of which this is due to human intervention over 2000+

 

With so much of the natural ecology missing, human intervention has always been needed.

The type and amount of intervention is subject to hot debate, very little of it rational, most of it knee jerk and rarely holistic. Economics, environmentalist politics, local politics, short term and incomplete planning and continuity make things harder.

 

Removing an invasive species is sometimes essential and in a few cases a legal requirement due to health or economic damage, sometimes necessary in order to protect a natural habitat, sometimes needed to encourage the reestablishment of a natural habitat.

 

Not removing mink would undermine the ability to re create the natural succession of a habitat.

 

 

 

 

I know all that but we put the mink there.

 

we are the most invasive species to have ever walked the earth - everywhere we have gone has led to the devastation of every existing habitat.

 

what makes you think we are qualified to decide whether it’s right to have minks in the uk?

[Annie Bynnol]

 

27 minutes ago, makapaka said:

I know all that but we put the mink there.

 

we are the most invasive species to have ever walked the earth - everywhere we have gone has led to the devastation of every existing habitat.

 

what makes you think we are qualified to decide whether it’s right to have minks in the uk?

Our actions have led directly and indirectly to  changes in the type, distribution, population and range of most plant and animals in this area.

We will never be able to return to a time in the past but things are and will change anyway.

We can choose between action and inaction, and if we choose action what action will that be and what is the aim?

Selecting inaction will lead to exploitative invasive species competing/predating on other species for decades with a roller coaster cycle of population crashes and explosions. Given the isolated nature of these population recovery of a long term diverse and stable ecosystems is unlikely.

 

Maintaining diverse and healthy populations is efficient and economical if done by mimicking as best we can the ecosystems that once dominated this area. This will allow new populations to establish themselves and better able to adapt to future changes.

[Guest makapaka]

Just now, Annie Bynnol said:

 

Our actions have led directly and indirectly to  changes in the type, distribution, population and range of most plant and animals in this area.

We will never be able to return to a time in the past but things are and will change anyway.

We can choose between action and inaction, and if we choose action what action will that be and what is the aim?

Selecting inaction will lead to exploitative invasive species competing/predating on other species for decades with a roller coaster cycle of population crashes and explosions. Given the isolated nature of these population recovery of a long term diverse and stable ecosystems is unlikely.

 

Maintaining diverse and healthy populations is efficient and economical if done by mimicking as best we can the ecosystems that once dominated this area. This will allow new populations to establish themselves and better able to adapt to future changes.

I’d just leave the mink alone. theyre only doing what they were born to do.

what makes you think we’re entitled to interfere with what’s happening in the wild?

[mickey finn]

Horrible things.