mafya   250 #13 Posted October 27, 2018 He wants the thief to work off the roof repair costs. He may be well intentioned but why does he think he can do a better job than the justice system and professional rehabilitation workers. If he really wants to help young criminals and he can do better than the current professionals he should change career. Is he willing to accept responsibility if the thief robs my house under his care? He is wrong when he says not many people would do what he's offering. If you get robbed the chances are you don't get your things back. What he has offered is for the thief to repair his roof so it puts him in his previous situation and in return he wont go jail.  It's selfish and misguided, a good deal for him and the thief perhaps, but what about anyone else who may get robbed.  Once this lad gets a criminal record then people with a similar attitude to yourself will hold it against him and his job prospects will be greatly diminished. This may lead the lad to end up being forced down the path of criminality due to the record affecting his career options... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Rimrunner   10 #14 Posted October 27, 2018 There's a chance thats this is not his first rodeo and by reporting it to the police may help them with other instances, morally this is what he should do. whilst his intentions are good this could open a can of worms and not in his favour. personally this kid needs reporting and hopefully adequate charges brought against him as he is well aware of his actions. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
prince al   177 #15 Posted October 27, 2018 Once this lad gets a criminal record then people with a similar attitude to yourself will hold it against him and his job prospects will be greatly diminished. This may lead the lad to end up being forced down the path of criminality due to the record affecting his career options...  Thanks Mystic Meg! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
bassett one   452 #16 Posted October 27, 2018 if hes not prepared to give himself up,he deserves everthing he gets,he was lucky to have a chance in the first place . Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Guest   #17 Posted October 27, 2018 Once this lad gets a criminal record then people with a similar attitude to yourself will hold it against him and his job prospects will be greatly diminished. This may lead the lad to end up being forced down the path of criminality due to the record affecting his career options...  What makes you think he hasn’t already got a criminal record? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
mafya   250 #18 Posted October 27, 2018 (edited) What makes you think he hasn’t already got a criminal record?  Good point, if he has got a record then the Opportunity to turn his life round that the gym owner is offering him may actually help get him off the path of criminality. Edited October 27, 2018 by mafya Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
prince al   177 #19 Posted October 27, 2018 Good p. oint, if he has got a record then the Oort unity to turn his life round that the gym owner is offering him may actually help get him off the path of criminality.  Wake up and smell the coffee Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Sidonica   10 #20 Posted October 28, 2018 What makes you think he hasn’t already got a criminal record?  What makes you think he has? Either way he is being offered the opportunity to put things right and hopefully change his ways. If it was your son would you be so keen for him to have a criminal record? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #21 Posted October 28, 2018 Either way the gym owner is entitled to not press charges if a settlement is reached privately. People have that choice over a large majority of crime.  (Technically I'm not sure we DO actually have this as a right, but the victim being the primary witness if they refuse to testify then it amounts to the same thing in many cases). Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Tek-no-logic   10 #22 Posted October 28, 2018 ...... Wrong post....... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
spilldig   190 #23 Posted October 28, 2018 well done i say,it will or could prevent him from a criminal record,which could affect his future life,i hope it all works out for everyone  Agreed. Everyone deserves a second chance. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Steelworker   10 #24 Posted October 28, 2018 Once this lad gets a criminal record then people with a similar attitude to yourself will hold it against him and his job prospects will be greatly diminished. This may lead the lad to end up being forced down the path of criminality due to the record affecting his career options...  Not at all. I look at ability to do the job. I believe you can learn a trade or do further education if incarcerated, and get help for addictions, this would greatly improve his job prospects and could perhaps turn his life around. Perhaps a talk with the cops will scare him into changing if he hasn't been in trouble with them before.  There's a lot of baseless assumptions being made that the gym owner can do a better job turning this persons life around than the professionals. He's not qualified as far as I see, if he finds himself with a new employee that has a bad attitude and addictions will he stick it out or move him on?  The whole ideal is flawed and if we replaced our justice system with this 'restorative justice' ideal we would be worse off. It would be every person for themselves, the thief would only ever be accountable to the victim (if caught) and would have infinity chances. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...