Infowars and the rise of the british far right?

[Magilla 510]

Apple removes Alex Jones and Infowars podcasts

http://thehill.com/policy/technology/400503-apple-removes-alex-jones-and-infowars-podcasts

[I1L2T3 10]

Had the attack taken place on say, the offices of the Daily Mail by the far left, I suppose that would be fine.

 

So you admit that the Daily Mail is far right?

[tinfoilhat 11]

Apple removes Alex Jones and Infowars podcasts

http://thehill.com/policy/technology/400503-apple-removes-alex-jones-and-infowars-podcasts

 

He is a absolute nut job. I find it inconceivable that people listen to his shouty rants and go "yeah, this guys got a point!"

[Top Cats Hat 10]

I find it inconceivable that people listen to his shouty rants and go "yeah, this guys got a point!"

 

Sadly they do.

 

One of the reasons we have Trump, Brexit and Lega as part of the Italian government, is that shouty blokes seem to appeal to a certain people who would rather listen to a rant which chimes with their prejudices than take the time and make the effort to discover for themselves how the world really works.

 

Look at the frightening recent statistics of the number of people who now accept that a hard Brexit will be a disaster for the UK but see it as their preferred choice.

[melthebell 864]

He is a absolute nut job. I find it inconceivable that people listen to his shouty rants and go "yeah, this guys got a point!"

out of interest i watched one of his youtube videos the other week, it verged on promoting right wing armed revolution

[Calahonda 11]

Had the attack taken place on say, the offices of the Daily Mail by the far left, I suppose that would be fine.

 

So you admit that the Daily Mail is far right?

 

Don’t read any newspaper, no matter what the Corbyn comrades say, ‘‘this of course makes me a Tory. :hihi:

[Magilla 510]

He is a absolute nut job. I find it inconceivable that people listen to his shouty rants and go "yeah, this guys got a point!"

 

Same here,. simply defies belief that people are stupid enough to believe a word of it.

[bendix 10]

Same here,. simply defies belief that people are stupid enough to believe a word of it.

 

 

The sad fact is that we are now (proudly it seems) firmly in the Age of Unreason and Stupidity. Facts no longer matter, intellectualism is frowned upon, considered debate is dead.

 

It's a sad sad state of affairs.

 

(CF .. the left are as guilty of this as the right, by the way)

[Top Cats Hat 10]

 

(CF .. the left are as guilty of this as the right, by the way)

 

I have always found that the left are almost too rigorous in their intellectualism, and the shunning and in some cases demonising of intellectualism, is very much the province of the populist right.

 

Maybe some examples are in order?

[bendix 10]

I have always found that the left are almost too rigorous in their intellectualism, and the shunning and in some cases demonising of intellectualism, is very much the province of the populist right.

 

Maybe some examples are in order?

 

The whole premise of the philosophical backdrop of the left, marxism, is anti-illectualism at its best. Read Karl Popper's The Open Society and its enemies for a detailed explanation of why, but briefly marxism has a failsafe and oh so casually easy explanation for every reason it has ever failed. Working class people who fail to see the inevitability of socialist paradise? Why, that's easy sir - false consciousness. Every criticism can be explained away with an inbuilt reason. Its very existence shuns and repels any attempt to critique or, or dismisses criticism as proof that the revolution is happening, even when it clearly isn't.

 

No philosophy that can't be critiqued can be truly intellectual. A system of thought has to be tested and poked at, to be attacked and criticised, to have arguments against it if it is to be resilient.

 

THAT is the essence of Socratic thought, and the essence of intellectual debate.

[Top Cats Hat 10]

The whole premise of the philosophical backdrop of the left, marxism, is anti-illectualism at its best. Read Karl Popper's The Open Society and its enemies for a detailed explanation of why, but briefly marxism has a failsafe and oh so casually easy explanation for every reason it has ever failed. Working class people who fail to see the inevitability of socialist paradise? Why, that's easy sir - false consciousness.

 

I'm pretty sure that the last time I looked, 'the left' was more than just a particular strand of Marxism.

 

Back on topic, it looks like the bookshop was attacked by a crowd calling themselves Make Britain Great Again who seem to be an offshoot of UKIP. They were holding a protest at the BBC earlier, had a few bevvies and posted up a celebratory video which was then hastily taken down when almost every individual in it had been identified* on the internet.

 

Plod are investigating.

 

(*a tip for people engaged in such activity. There is not much point wearing a mask when half an hour earlier you are filmed at a protest wearing exactly the same clothes, sporting exactly the same badges and holding exactly the same placard and speaking in exactly the same voice, then boasting about it on the internet.)

[melthebell 864]

I'm pretty sure that the last time I looked, 'the left' was more than just a particular strand of Marxism.

 

Back on topic, it looks like the bookshop was attacked by a crowd calling themselves Make Britain Great Again who seem to be an offshoot of UKIP. They were holding a protest at the BBC earlier, had a few bevvies and posted up a celebratory video which was then hastily taken down when almost every individual in it had been identified* on the internet.

 

Plod are investigating.

 

(*a tip for people engaged in such activity. There is not much point wearing a mask when half an hour earlier you are filmed at a protest wearing exactly the same clothes, sporting exactly the same badges and holding exactly the same placard and speaking in exactly the same voice, then boasting about it on the internet.)

reminds me of this