El Cid   221 #25 Posted January 8, 2018 So what more can we do to lessen the effect considering the scientist say that this is on the cards anyway.  On the cards, what cards are these? Fake news, lots of it around recently.  "Notice that the green and orange bars are both bigger than the black bar. This shows that greenhouse gases have caused more warming than has been observed over the past six decades, but some of that was offset by cooling from human aerosol pollution. And the best estimate from the body of peer-reviewed climate science research is that humans are responsible for more than 100% of the global surface warming since 1950, with natural factors probably offsetting a little bit of that with a slight cooling influence."  https://www.theguardian.com/environment/climate-consensus-97-per-cent/2014/sep/15/97-vs-3-how-much-global-warming-are-humans-causing Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Bob Arctor   11 #26 Posted January 8, 2018 So what more can we do to lessen the effect considering the scientist say that this is on the cards anyway.  The scientists say that we need to reduce CO2 emissions to the extent that temperature rise can be kept to less than 2 degrees Celsius, ideally lower - surely you are aware of this Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
retep   68 #27 Posted January 8, 2018 A good listen if you have the time, https://vimeo.com/211618571 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
El Cid   221 #28 Posted January 8, 2018 A good listen if you have the time, https://vimeo.com/211618571  Who is HAROLD DOIRON? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
retep   68 #29 Posted January 8, 2018 Who is HAROLD DOIRON?  It says on the tin retired NASA engineer. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
El Cid   221 #30 Posted January 8, 2018 It says on the tin retired NASA engineer.  A mechanic, giving a speech in a cafe?  These Youtubers are amazing, anyone can do it, some of them become millionaires. My friends daughter is 18 and trying to get into it, instead of going to uni. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #31 Posted January 8, 2018 Yeah, NASA Engineer is the same as a mechanic.  Engineer doesn't mean someone who works with spanners, only in the UK do we have washing machine engineers and gas boiler engineers. Elsewhere in the world Engineer strictly means people who are chartered with a professional body, and most of them probably never use a physical tool in their professional life. They engineer solutions using science and mathematics. The "mechanic" you're trying to dismiss has at least one PhD. That doesn't make him right, but to belittle his intelligence by dismissively calling him an mechanic just makes you look stupid, unless you're a professor on the quiet, he's more highly educated than you by far. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
El Cid   221 #32 Posted January 8, 2018 Yeah, NASA Engineer is the same as a mechanic.   Just had a NASA 'scientist' on radio Leeds telling drivers how to stop their windscreens freezing up, and he wasn't saying anything about reducing your carbon footprint  ---------- Post added 08-01-2018 at 13:27 ----------  The "mechanic" you're trying to dismiss has at least one PhD.  Millions of people have a equivalent 'Phd'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Cyclone   10 #33 Posted January 8, 2018 Yes, millions of people are doctors of engineering. They worked hard for it, they're not mechanics. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
retep   68 #34 Posted January 8, 2018 A mechanic, giving a speech in a cafe? These Youtubers are amazing, anyone can do it, some of them become millionaires. My friends daughter is 18 and trying to get into it, instead of going to uni.  Yep thick as a brick mechanic , https://www.engr.uky.edu/me/files/2011/05/document2008-10-29-070818.pdf Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
geared   320 #35 Posted January 8, 2018 The scientists say that we need to reduce CO2 emissions to the extent that temperature rise can be kept to less than 2 degrees Celsius, ideally lower - surely you are aware of this  Didn't the Americans pull out of that deal? Effectively leaving it in tatters.  We can do what we can, but if the big boys aren't on-board we're ******* in the wind. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
altus   540 #36 Posted January 8, 2018 Yep thick as a brick mechanic , https://www.engr.uky.edu/me/files/2011/05/document2008-10-29-070818.pdf Can you explain what relevance his expertise in vibrations in rocket engines has to commenting on climate science?  You wouldn't ask an electrical engineering Phd to design you a bridge. Why would to ask a mechanical engineering Phd for analysis of the climate? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...