Seven-year-old boy living as a girl

[petemcewan 27]

You know it's just commonsense. Ask an expert.

 

 

http://www.hrc.org/resources/transgender-children-youth-ask-the-expert-is-my-child-transgender

 

 

 

 

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transgender_youth

Edited October 25, 2016 by petemcewan

[Tomjames 10]

I've seen no evidence to suggest how they have been formed, but they are very much reinforced by some parents, and particularly so by generations gone by.

Boys are told to stop playing with dolls, they are told not to cry, they are praised for intelligence.

Girls are told not to play rough, they are bought dolls and play houses, they aren't criticised as much for expressing emotion and they are invariably praised for being pretty instead of intelligent.

 

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You are confusing gender with biological sex.

 

Bull. You are missing out a huge factor of gender biology. Boys have testosterone. Competition and maleness is in our DNA. More girls go to university and achieve better exam results which goes against the intelligence statement.

[Cyclone 10]

It doesn't go against the "intelligence statement" at all. I didn't say that boys WERE more intelligent, I said they are praised for it, along with other positive traits, whilst girls are very often just told how pretty they are.

 

And I'm not missing any biology, hormonal differences doesn't mean that parents should reinforce gender stereotypes by telling boys not to play with dolls or telling girls not to climb trees.

 

In fact you appear to have entirely ignored what I said, and rebutted something entirely different, it's almost a strawman, but you've not actually said what you're rebutting, so instead it's just a reply that has no relevance to what I said.

 

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No. No, I think you're confusing gender with a warped view on common sense that's enhanced by a love of loving everything that's in a minority or oppressed without opening your eyes

 

Well why don't you do some actual research and find out if I'm wrong, instead of just waving your uninformed opinion about in public like we all want to see it?

[petemcewan 27]

Bull. You are missing out a huge factor of gender biology. Boys have testosterone. Competition and maleness is in our DNA. More girls go to university and achieve better exam results which goes against the intelligence statement.

 

Tomjames,

 

 

Men don't have to be slaves to the SRY gene. You're not a sociobiologist by any chance ?

Edited October 25, 2016 by petemcewan

[Tomjames 10]

Tomjames,

 

 

Men don't have to be slaves to the SRY gene. You're not a sociobiologist by any chance ?

 

Fact is if girls had same levels of testosterone we'd go after same jobs, same pursuits, similar behaviours. The early years nurture argument is third wave feminism nonsense to condemn toxic masculinity. Boys aren't taught to be male!

 

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It doesn't go against the "intelligence statement" at all. I didn't say that boys WERE more intelligent, I said they are praised for it, along with other positive traits, whilst girls are very often just told how pretty they are.

 

And I'm not missing any biology, hormonal differences doesn't mean that parents should reinforce gender stereotypes by telling boys not to play with dolls or telling girls not to climb trees.

 

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One of the reasons girls do better at school is because they are encouraged academically surely? If not, then you must be saying girls are more intelligent.

Maybe they are. I'd like to see scientific evidence though.

[petemcewan 27]

Tomjames,

 

With due respect, from your reply; I'll deduce you are a sociobiologist.

 

There are masses of credible sociological research supporting the socialised acquisition of masculinity. Chromosomes determine biological sex.

 

Socialisation influences gender behaviour. It's nothing to do with feminism.

 

Gender is a social construct.

 

http://www.who.int/genomics/gender/en/index1.html

 

 

 

" Gender, typically described in terms of masculinity and femininity, is a social construction that varies across different cultures and over time ".

(WHO)

 

 

Testosterone and the labour market is a new one on me.

Edited October 25, 2016 by petemcewan

[Tomjames 10]

Tomjames,

 

With due respect, from your reply; I'll deduce you are a sociobiologist.

 

There are masses of credible sociological research supporting the socialised acquisition of masculinity. Chromosomes determine biological sex.

 

Socialisation influences gender behaviour. It's nothing to do with feminism.

 

Gender is a social construct.

 

http://www.who.int/genomics/gender/en/index1.html

 

 

 

" Gender, typically described in terms of masculinity and femininity, is a social construction that varies across different cultures and over time ".

(WHO)

 

 

Testosterone and the labour market is a new one on me.

 

You don't think male hormone fuels typical male behaviour and even identity? Interesting.

[Cyclone 10]

One of the reasons girls do better at school is because they are encouraged academically surely? If not, then you must be saying girls are more intelligent.

Maybe they are. I'd like to see scientific evidence though.

 

You can't just make up what you like and then challenge me to provide the evidence for it.

[Tomjames 10]

You can't just make up what you like and then challenge me to provide the evidence for it.

 

OK I will re-read the original point.

 

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OK I reassessed. I concluded I am right and you are wrong.

[pretty_big 10]

It doesn't go against the "intelligence statement" at all. I didn't say that boys WERE more intelligent, I said they are praised for it, along with other positive traits, whilst girls are very often just told how pretty they are.

 

And I'm not missing any biology, hormonal differences doesn't mean that parents should reinforce gender stereotypes by telling boys not to play with dolls or telling girls not to climb trees.

 

In fact you appear to have entirely ignored what I said, and rebutted something entirely different, it's almost a strawman, but you've not actually said what you're rebutting, so instead it's just a reply that has no relevance to what I said.

 

---------- Post added 25-10-2016 at 07:38 ----------

 

 

Well why don't you do some actual research and find out if I'm wrong, instead of just waving your uninformed opinion about in public like we all want to see it?

 

And what will I find researching a load of pompous university educated so called "experts" who don't have any kids telling people who've got kids how to raise them? Do me a favour, why don't we give 7/8 year olds the vote and let them marry while we're at it.

[Cyclone 10]

Oh, are you one of those who dislikes "experts". You prefer to form an opinion in an absence of actual knowledge and research and then shout loudly about it?

 

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OK I will re-read the original point.

 

---------- Post added 25-10-2016 at 22:37 ----------

 

OK I reassessed. I concluded I am right and you are wrong.

 

You can conclude what you like, it's all in your head.

 

But you can't just make stuff up and expect me to provide the evidence to support whatever you've thought of.

[petemcewan 27]

Tomjames,

 

Most of the time parents know what is best for their children because when parents advice their children, the advice always comes with good intention -and from a pure heart. They want to see their child/children the best of all the children in the world.

But they are not always-and in all circumstances -right. Families and parents sometimes require the advice and help from experts.

Edited October 26, 2016 by petemcewan