unbeliever Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Of course they don't have any idea. Not anything they will tell you anyway. They will just say it isn't their call and have no idea what will happen and we'll simply elect a government every 5 years that will do what we want. This seems like the most excellent plan ever given that every 5 years we potentially have a government that spends its 5 years in power unpicking everything the outgoing government did in the previous parliament. This definitely looks like a great recipe for negotiations and trading transitions that will span multiple parliaments. Tough. That's democracy. That's exactly how it's supposed to work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nightrider Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Why would the UK still be needing immigrants after Brexit when the whole idea of Brexit for the Brexiteers was to stop foreigners taking their jobs...........Make the NHS your jobs,stop relying on foreign labour,and then scapegoating them. Why is the NHS employing immigrants if we have enough British qualified people to do the jobs? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rodnreeluk Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 This definitely looks like a great recipe for negotiations and trading transitions that will span multiple parliaments.Why? As said earlier: The UK just has to agree to allow the Germans, French, Italians, etc sell their goods in the UK. The same as the EU needs to agree to allow the UK to sell its goods in Europe. Simple trade deal! No need to be any more complicated than that. (Tit for Tat) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Why would the UK still be needing immigrants after Brexit when the whole idea of Brexit for the Brexiteers was to stop foreigners taking their jobs...........Make the NHS your jobs,stop relying on foreign labour,and then scapegoating them. That wasn't the idea at all. If you have medical qualifications and a job offer in the NHS you have very little trouble getting into the UK whether you're from the EEA or not. This referendum has nothing whatsoever to do with that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quik Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Of course they don't have any idea. Not anything they will tell you anyway. They will just say it isn't their call and have no idea what will happen and we'll simply elect a government every 5 years that will do what we want. This seems like the most excellent plan ever given that every 5 years we potentially have a government that spends its 5 years in power unpicking everything the outgoing government did in the previous parliament. This definitely looks like a great recipe for negotiations and trading transitions that will span multiple parliaments. Then you are truely lost to democracy. Any man who will accept dicatorship if he feels it profits him has to accept he has no say when it does not profit him. Sad to here such sentiments coming from (I presume) an Englishman. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Tough. That's democracy. That's exactly how it's supposed to work. Er, not exactly. There are some things that need to be done over multiple parliaments, and require political consensus. The building of new transport infrastructure, power infrastructure, warships, defence systems, ports, airports etc... etc... These are just a few examples and these are the relatively straightforward ones, although still prone to meddling and cancellation for political reasons. Our relationship with the EU and our trade relationship with the rest of the world is not something we should be leaving to the vagaries of extremely short-termist political parties. It would be a disaster. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chalga Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Why is the NHS employing immigrants if we have enough British qualified people to do the jobs? No idea,that's why I said stop doing it and then scapegoating them. ---------- Post added 23-06-2016 at 15:30 ---------- That wasn't the idea at all. If you have medical qualifications and a job offer in the NHS you have very little trouble getting into the UK whether you're from the EEA or not. This referendum has nothing whatsoever to do with that. Wrong,immigration was and is the main driver for the referendum and Brexit.Immigration includes immigrants 'taking our jobs'.........train up your own and make them YOUR jobs...........stop asking immigrants to do them and scapegoating them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Then you are truely lost to democracy. Any man who will accept dicatorship if he feels it profits him has to accept he has no say when it does not profit him. Sad to here such sentiments coming from (I presume) an Englishman. Nope, I'm describing the practical realities of the situation. Some things take decades and require political consensus. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tomjames Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 Caveat: By "stop" I think they possibly mean massively reduce, not make it zero. But I think massively reduce means no freedom of movement like we have now. People are going to want to come to the UK. Non EU numbers which are supposedly already controlled, proves that. ---------- Post added 23-06-2016 at 16:38 ---------- I'm sick of the leave side trying to stifle our success. On the one hand you say you want a prosperous economy while on the other you say we will raise the drawbridge. It's a ludicrous standpoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I1L2T3 Posted June 23, 2016 Share Posted June 23, 2016 People are going to want to come to the UK. Non EU numbers which are supposedly already controlled, proves that. Almost 60% of the net total last year was non-EU immigrants. And Farage wants more non-EU immigrants. You have to question why exactly Farage wants that. Who is pulling his strings. All our politicians are little dancing puppets for somebody or other. Farage's puppet master probably wants ever cheaper labour than can be sourced in the EU. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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