Time to tackle inequality!

[RonJeremy 10]

So when were people better off?

[Bonzo77 13]

So when were people better off?

 

As far as wealth goes, the UK has never had as much. The problem is, the money isn't going to everyone, just the rich.

 

The gap has been increasing, rapidly for 30 years. It increased under labour, but it's accelerating even quicker under the coalition.

[Mecky 10]

Lol. The reason people use cars is because they are more convenient, safer, dryer and you can smoke in them. They are more expensive than using busses but WTH people are better off now than they were so they don't use busses as much.

 

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You're welcome.

 

Oh dear ...

 

"Lowest paid face biggest decline in living standards since 1850s"

 

http://theconversation.com/lowest-paid-face-biggest-decline-in-living-standards-since-1850s-21537

 

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/oct/11/british-pay-squeeze-worst-150-years-tuc-study

 

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/business/news/downturn-sees-average-real-wages-collapse-to-a-record-low-8885044.html

 

http://www.thisismoney.co.uk/money/news/article-2793771/Modest-wage-growth-masks-declining-living-standards-UK-households.html

[Anna B 1,417]

People are better off now than they ever were?????

 

I think you have to remember it takes time for people to catch up with events; at least a generation.

The ones who are really going to reflect the down turn are the next generation who will not have had the benefit of free higher education and free health care that we have enjoyed, and will be compromised by a poorer diet and lower standard of living.

[RonJeremy 10]

Quite right. The next generation are going to suffer from the changed landscape of the country by the Labour gov't increasing and encouraging immigration to change the face of Britain and to wipe the smile off the Tories faces.

They also nearly bankrupted the country (again) and the generations ahead will have to lumber this debt and the prospect of a sharia run Britain because of them.

[Bonzo77 13]

Quite right. The next generation are going to suffer from the changed landscape of the country by the Labour gov't increasing and encouraging immigration to change the face of Britain and to wipe the smile off the Tories faces.

They also nearly bankrupted the country (again) and the generations ahead will have to lumber this debt and the prospect of a sharia run Britain because of them.

 

The gap between rich and poor has accelerated under the coalition. Labour did nothing to slow the process when they were in power.

[RonJeremy 10]

The gap between rich and poor has accelerated under the coalition. Labour did nothing to slow the process when they were in power.

If that's because there are more rich people then fine, no problem. How is it measured? Is it because we have so many illegals here going to foodbanks that the statistic is true (if it is - I Disraeli had something to say about statistics)?

[Anna B 1,417]

Quite right. The next generation are going to suffer from the changed landscape of the country by the Labour gov't increasing and encouraging immigration to change the face of Britain and to wipe the smile off the Tories faces.

They also nearly bankrupted the country (again) and the generations ahead will have to lumber this debt and the prospect of a sharia run Britain because of them.

 

I'm glad you agree, but I don't think it's fair to blame one party or the other.

 

I would say it is largely the fault of continuous bad government over the past 40 years (at least) that has got us to where we are now. I could name people and policies on both sides which have turned out to be dreadful mistakes.

 

I think we need to look at all government's failure to plan far enough ahead, lack of joined up thinking, and politician's aversion to doing what's right in favour of doing what will gain votes. Politicians no longer seem to put the interests of the country before their own, and few of them have any concept of integrity any more.

 

It's our version of democracy needs reform.

[tinfoilhat 11]

The gap between rich and poor has accelerated under the coalition. Labour did nothing to slow the process when they were in power.

 

You are trying to use one argument to cover points and you can't do it - it's impossible. We are generally in better shape now than we have been by using more or less any measurement you like - life expectancy, infant mortality, numbers going to higher education, numbers in work, we still have a welfare state that will provide you with free housing (if you aren't working g) healthcare, education up to the age of 18 and a state pension (although not huge) and a care home at the end of it. We splash out on more frivolous bits of technology than we ever had and travel further on our holidays. We, as a country are better off.

 

Yes, there is inequality. But that, as was mentioned on an earlier post, as much to do with billionaires living (or indeed moving here) because of many reasons we could all speculate on. Our corporation taxes aren't as low as many other countries (Ireland and Holland of the top of my head) and that's before you start including the old fashioned tax havens like Jersey and Luxemburg. London is still a global financial centre which will attract many - and if you truly minted

, and this bits important, London is a very cool place to live in. If you really want to see inequality - go to India, or even the USA. We have inequality but we start at a far higher level.

[RonJeremy 10]

You are trying to use one argument to cover points and you can't do it - it's impossible. We are generally in better shape now than we have been by using more or less any measurement you like - life expectancy, infant mortality, numbers going to higher education, numbers in work, we still have a welfare state that will provide you with free housing (if you aren't working g) healthcare, education up to the age of 18 and a state pension (although not huge) and a care home at the end of it. We splash out on more frivolous bits of technology than we ever had and travel further on our holidays. We, as a country are better off.

 

Yes, there is inequality. But that, as was mentioned on an earlier post, as much to do with billionaires living (or indeed moving here) because of many reasons we could all speculate on. Our corporation taxes aren't as low as many other countries (Ireland and Holland of the top of my head) and that's before you start including the old fashioned tax havens like Jersey and Luxemburg. London is still a global financial centre which will attract many - and if you truly minted

, and this bits important, London is a very cool place to live in. If you really want to see inequality - go to India, or even the USA. We have inequality but we start at a far higher level.

Bang on the money TFH

[Mecky 10]

You are trying to use one argument to cover points and you can't do it - it's impossible. We are generally in better shape now than we have been by using more or less any measurement you like - life expectancy, infant mortality, numbers going to higher education, numbers in work, we still have a welfare state that will provide you with free housing (if you aren't working g) healthcare, education up to the age of 18 and a state pension (although not huge) and a care home at the end of it. We splash out on more frivolous bits of technology than we ever had and travel further on our holidays. We, as a country are better off.

 

Yes, there is inequality. But that, as was mentioned on an earlier post, as much to do with billionaires living (or indeed moving here) because of many reasons we could all speculate on. Our corporation taxes aren't as low as many other countries (Ireland and Holland of the top of my head) and that's before you start including the old fashioned tax havens like Jersey and Luxemburg. London is still a global financial centre which will attract many - and if you truly minted

, and this bits important, London is a very cool place to live in. If you really want to see inequality - go to India, or even the USA. We have inequality but we start at a far higher level.

 

So why don't they all move to African hole then or some country with tax rates far lower than the UK?

[tinfoilhat 11]

So why don't they all move to African hole then or some country with tax rates far lower than the UK?

 

Why don't they all move to Luxemburg or Jersey? Because it's boring with nowt to spend their money on!