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Are UKIP the new BNP?


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The BNP are now almost gone for good, however there is still a big demand in this country for an extreme right wing party.

 

The main reason the Tories lost so many seats is that they're too centre and not right wing racist and homophobic enough, so UKIP mop up the disillusioned Tory voters, and the underclass socialists lefty votes making them the new BNP, plus they're less thuggish and therefore more marketable, especially for the rich.

 

So are UKIP the perfect replacement for the BNP?

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It's always been said that UKIP is "the BNP in suits" or "BNP with good PR".

 

I think they do play on the fears of DM readers, especially those who hark back to the days of pre-decimalisation when 'blackies' were figures of fun on "Love Thy Neighbour" and all homosexuals were like Larry Grayson or John Inman who dressed flamboyantly and made double entendres but were never seen in the prescence of another homosexual man.

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The UK Independence Party is as far removed from the odious BNP as Milliband is from socialism.

UKIP are not rascist.anti semetic,right wing or homophobic and if some of the previous posters could bother to do a little more research on all political parties and their policies then perhaps we would'nt have to read daft comments.

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If it is correct to say that the support for the BNP at the ballot box has significantly reduced it is a valid question to ask where their votes have gone

 

UKIP's policies may not be racist, homophobic or anti semitic, but it seems fair to ask if their raison d'etre appeals to some of those who previously voted for the BNP

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If it is correct to say that the support for the BNP at the ballot box has significantly reduced it is a valid question to ask where their votes have gone

 

UKIP's policies may not be racist, homophobic or anti semitic, but it seems fair to ask if their raison d'etre appeals to some of those who previously voted for the BNP

You have no proof of who voted for who, its just supposition on your part.

 

A lot of people vote for parties on one or two of their policies, you do not have to agree with everything the party is about and I suspect a lot of people just fed up with the immigration policy of this country voted for the BNP but are not actually racist. All people have done is go to a party that has a better policy on immigration than the main parties and yet does not have the racist undertones that the BNP has, its not hard to work it out.

 

The insinuation here is that support for the BNP has dropped while support for UKIP has gone up and, although you cannot even say that they are the same voters, this is meant to mean that the voters that voted for the BNP were racist and if they now vote for UKIP then that must be a racist party. :loopy:

 

The logic and leap of faith needed here is astounding.

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If it is correct to say that the support for the BNP at the ballot box has significantly reduced it is a valid question to ask where their votes have gone

 

UKIP's policies may not be racist, homophobic or anti semitic, but it seems fair to ask if their raison d'etre appeals to some of those who previously voted for the BNP

 

Maltby has just seen a swing away from the BNP to Labour by getting rid of their only BNP councillor and replacing them with a Labour one, so Labour must be picking up some BNP voters. BNP support is highest in places where labour are traditionally dominant; white working class areas.

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You have no proof of who voted for who, its just supposition on your part.

 

The logic and leap of faith needed here is astounding.

 

I wasn't supposing anything - or implying anything - I was simply saying it is a fair question to ask - I don't know if it is the case or not - I have only a vague idea of both BNP and UKIP policies and have no idea or interest how similar or not they may be - but if one "fringe" party's support goes down and another's goes up, it is not unreasonable to ask if the two are connected - the OP may have implied (or insinuated) what you have responded to - I didn't

 

The bit of your post I edited out I actually agree with - some people vote for a party in spite of some of their policies - I know I do - and I know about half a dozen people who have told me they have voted BNP in the past - only one of whom I would consider to hold racist views

 

But if you'd rather respond to things I didn't say, feel free

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Maltby has just seen a swing away from the BNP to Labour by getting rid of their only BNP councillor and replacing them with a Labour one, so Labour must be picking up some BNP voters. BNP support is highest in places where labour are traditionally dominant; white working class areas.

 

The first part of your post doesn't automatically follow, although I suspect it is true - the second part I agree with

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