Number Six   10 #1 Posted February 20, 2012 Not sure how this will work, but clearly we have politicians who are too inflexible in their views, and too involved in automatically having a pop at each other rather than forging a more prosperous and fairer UK.  So why don't we crowdsource a new manifesto - a second third way, or something.  We'll need policies to cover a few key areas:  The Economy Unemployment Education Europe Health Public services  and we'll also need some strategic direction - we've never replaced the primary and secondary sector jobs (digging stuff up and making stuff) we lost, and we need something to replace it, as clearly 20 blokes in London having £50 million each is not quote the same as 50,000 people in Sheffield having £20 grand each.  Ideas? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
truman   10 #2 Posted February 20, 2012 Not sure how this will work, but clearly we have politicians who are too inflexible in their views, and too involved in automatically having a pop at each other rather than forging a more prosperous and fairer UK.  You reckon this won't happen on here..? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
mj.scuba   10 #3 Posted February 20, 2012 Not a good idea on SF unless you want the end result to read like the manifesto of the Socialist Workers Party. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Ian Dome   10 #4 Posted February 20, 2012 "crowdsource" ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
websters gue   16 #5 Posted February 20, 2012 Not a good idea on SF unless you want the end result to read like the manifesto of the Socialist Workers Party.  Are you saying that all left wing SF forumers are members of the Socialist Workers Party? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
pottedplant   10 #6 Posted February 20, 2012 Are you Mark Thomas? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Rupert_Baehr   10 #7 Posted February 20, 2012 "crowdsource" ?  I think that's where a crowd is organised and spouts slogans. If enough people like the sound of one of the slogans, it becomes policy.  There are a number of advantages (for the crowd organisers), not least being:  1. Nobody is required to 'think a policy through'. - It avoids tedious debates and logical reasoning.  2. If the policy should turn out to be a disaster, then the 'organisers' can pass the blame onto the crowd who chose the policy in the first place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
mj.scuba   10 #8 Posted February 21, 2012 I think that's where a crowd is organised and spouts slogans. If enough people like the sound of one of the slogans, it becomes policy. There are a number of advantages (for the crowd organisers), not least being:  1. Nobody is required to 'think a policy through'. - It avoids tedious debates and logical reasoning.  2. If the policy should turn out to be a disaster, then the 'organisers' can pass the blame onto the crowd who chose the policy in the first place.  I like the "We are the 99%" slogan and think we should build policy around that. Firstly, 99% of people should get a 99% pay rise, the other 1% should be sent to the gallows. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Rupert_Baehr   10 #9 Posted February 21, 2012 ...Firstly, 99% of people should get a 99% pay rise, ...  As I said, if you use catchy slogans to set policy there's no need to think the policy through and it can misfire.  If you gave 99% of the people in the world (or even in the UK, for that matter) a 99% pay rise, you would be accused (quite properly) of 'making the rich richer and the poor poorer'.  A man earning £100,000 pa before the pay rise would get £199,000 pa afterwards and one earning £10,000 pa would get £19,900.  Congratulations! - You've just widened the gap between rich and poor. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Darth Vader   10 #10 Posted February 21, 2012 Not sure how this will work, but clearly we have politicians who are too inflexible in their views, and too involved in automatically having a pop at each other rather than forging a more prosperous and fairer UK.  And don't forget, too involved 'economically', like sitting on boards of companies, etc. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Darth Vader   10 #11 Posted February 21, 2012 As I said, if you use catchy slogans to set policy there's no need to think the policy through and it can misfire. If you gave 99% of the people in the world (or even in the UK, for that matter) a 99% pay rise, you would be accused (quite properly) of 'making the rich richer and the poor poorer'.  A man earning £100,000 pa before the pay rise would get £199,000 pa afterwards and one earning £10,000 pa would get £19,900.  Congratulations! - You've just widened the gap between rich and poor.  No he/she hasn't! They've lessened it. By doubling what the person at the bottom gets and keeping static the peeople in the top 1%. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Darth Vader   10 #12 Posted February 21, 2012 Education - Quality for all. No private schools, then, for starters, the politicians would be more interested in raising the standards and putting investment in to state schools, instead of being disinterested as they have no 'stake'. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...