Tradescanthia   10 #3373 Posted February 27, 2012 The people who want this live in fantasy land ., Its your Socialist types who have no idea how the economy runs.  Socialist/Capitalist/Fascist or whatever 'ist', The Cathedral is no place for a protest of this kind or any kind, only if it directly involves the church. Renta scruff inc. chose this place because its a soft target used by gentle people and clergy. Why not go and occupy a bank HQ where they have security guards capable of forcibly removing them. I am a socialist but this load of useless scruffs have made me ashamed. i like to visit the cathedral when in town to light a candle for certain people I knew who have passed away.It is also a quiet place for reflection, but no, the unwashed scrubbers want to use it as a protest ground. Try a target where people fight back next time......... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Penistone999 Â Â 10 #3374 Posted February 27, 2012 Socialist/Capitalist/Fascist or whatever 'ist', The Cathedral is no place for a protest of this kind or any kind, only if it directly involves the church. Renta scruff inc. chose this place because its a soft target used by gentle people and clergy. Why not go and occupy a bank HQ where they have security guards capable of forcibly removing them. I am a socialist but this load of useless scruffs have made me ashamed. i like to visit the cathedral when in town to light a candle for certain people I knew who have passed away.It is also a quiet place for reflection, but no, the unwashed scrubbers want to use it as a protest ground. Try a target where people fight back next time......... Â This is what we have said from day one . If you want to protest about a bank ....... Go and protest OUTSIDE THE BANK .Not damage the finances of a charitable organisation like the cathedral , who have no connection with the banking set up . Pure cowardice on the part of OS to squat there . I ve no doubt the cathedral was chosen as the place of squat because OS assumed they were a soft target who wouldnt fight back like a bank would ,as you rightly say. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Tony   10 #3375 Posted February 27, 2012 Like for example Occupy supporter and tax avoider Ken Livingstone. He has been funnelling money through a company only paying a lower % of tax by fiddling it as corporation tax. That wouldn't be included in these figures cos it's not income tax.  There's no fiddle there. He's self employed and running a business, not working for an employer on PAYE. It's perfectly normal - even for Ken. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
woodmally   10 #3376 Posted February 27, 2012 I have no problem with the wealthy having favourable tax breaks ,as they will still pay vastly more tax than the rest of us anyway . As for OS whining about the "Downtrodden" ,my view is this . A lot of people in this country wont get off their backsides and help themselves to make a better life ,they are happy to sit and do nothing and let the state support them . These are the people we have to be targeting , NOT the wealthy who already contribute massively into the public purse. But what you get with socialist protest groups like Occupy is a blinkered view that the problems lie with the wealthy ,who DO work ,and DO already contribute massively to the pot .  Yes and I've noticed the latest group Uncut UK are protesting outside Macdonalds tonight. Macdonalds who are giving some of these unemployed valuble work experience to put on their CV.  Have you noticed that none of these communists were protesting during the 90s when people borrowed silly amounts of money from the bank. And its all the banks fault for iresponsible lending too. No one ever takes responsiblity for thier own actions anymore just blame somebody else. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
alchemist   38 #3377 Posted February 28, 2012 (edited) Overnight news  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17187180  Another churchyard finally cleared. Still, to give the london protest its due it WAS actually in the financial district of a major conurbation. Edited February 28, 2012 by alchemist Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
CaptainChaos   10 #3378 Posted February 28, 2012 Socialist/Capitalist/Fascist or whatever 'ist', The Cathedral is no place for a protest of this kind or any kind, only if it directly involves the church. Renta scruff inc. chose this place because its a soft target used by gentle people and clergy. Why not go and occupy a bank HQ where they have security guards capable of forcibly removing them. I am a socialist but this load of useless scruffs have made me ashamed. i like to visit the cathedral when in town to light a candle for certain people I knew who have passed away.It is also a quiet place for reflection, but no, the unwashed scrubbers want to use it as a protest ground. Try a target where people fight back next time.........   Well said. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
joelovs2   10 #3379 Posted February 28, 2012 Everyone has agreed. It's just that you're the only one who thinks that it's everyone else. I agree with brianthedog, a summary of Occupy Sheffield's objectives would be useful on this first page.  wow new to this but these subjects are great Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Penistone999   10 #3380 Posted February 28, 2012 Overnight news http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17187180  Another churchyard finally cleared. Still, to give the london protest its due it WAS actually in the financial district of a major conurbation.  I was watching the live pictures from St Pauls on BBC News 24 around 1am this morning, and i must say , i was very impressed with the speed the Baliffs were clearing the tents and pallets away . Swfit ,decisive action . Very impressive. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Badlittlepup   10 #3381 Posted February 28, 2012 Overnight news http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-17187180  Another churchyard finally cleared. Still, to give the london protest its due it WAS actually in the financial district of a major conurbation.  Yes, and the land they were on belonged to the Corporation of London, which was one of the organisations they were protesting against. They were responsible for the legal costs NOT the church, and they are actually a well funded organisation, mainly by the banks.  Plus they did actually actively protest against the banks and were on the ball with current events and communicating with the press re their activities and protests.  Totally different league to the morons in Sheffield who just picked a fight with the church, have no supporters and never protested about the things they were supposed to be protesting about. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Alcoblog   10 #3382 Posted February 28, 2012 Yes, and the land they were on belonged to the Corporation of London, which was one of the organisations they were protesting against. They were responsible for the legal costs NOT the church, and they are actually a well funded organisation, mainly by the banks. Plus they did actually actively protest against the banks and were on the ball with current events and communicating with the press re their activities and protests.  Totally different league to the morons in Sheffield who just picked a fight with the church, have no supporters and never protested about the things they were supposed to be protesting about. Yeah ... like Dave from Scotland who at about half one this morning was telling the reporter he was afraid that his children would be implanted with micro-chips in years to come, whilst another protester fell of his pedal bike in the background. Haven't got a link for it but I'm pretty sure It'll be on Harry Hill fairly soon. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Penistone999 Â Â 10 #3383 Posted February 28, 2012 Yeah ... like Dave from Scotland who at about half one this morning was telling the reporter he was afraid that his children would be implanted with micro-chips in years to come, whilst another protester fell of his pedal bike in the background. Haven't got a link for it but I'm pretty sure It'll be on Harry Hill fairly soon. Â I saw him interviewed and nearly fell off my chair laughing. The Wacky Bacca has obviously made him paranoid. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Badlittlepup   10 #3384 Posted February 28, 2012 Yeah ... like Dave from Scotland who at about half one this morning was telling the reporter he was afraid that his children would be implanted with micro-chips in years to come, whilst another protester fell of his pedal bike in the background. Haven't got a link for it but I'm pretty sure It'll be on Harry Hill fairly soon.  Oh dear!! I think that is part of the reason there was not much resistance, the organisers must have known it was a dead dog, it wasn't so much a protest anymore, it had just been overwhelmed by the waifs and strays and nutters it was a magnet for.  Anybody with half a brain would have realised that was going to happen. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...