samssong

I liked both your choices, I read the ragged trousered philanthropist in the eighties when Thatcherism was at its peak. It struck a chord with me then as something that had been written at tha turn of the 19/20 century and still relevant as people were scared then of losing their jobs.

I haven't read Cannery row for a few years but would also recommend 'Sweet Thursday' by the same author. A lot of the same great characters in a story that moves around. Will Doc finally get it off with Suzy? I'll not spoil the ending.

Suzy gave Doc the knock back ,I can't believe it ,cried my self to sleep.

I did (we get on well) and this is what she would say: Tim don't be daft, because I work as a cleaner I have something to do and I get to go on holiday 4 times a year!

 

She is in her fifties and grew up believing women could maybe amount to secretary if they were allowed to school.

 

Will you address that point now, or are you really going to pretend to be emancipated by arguing all people employing cleaners are evil human beings for making more money than you do?

 

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100% right!

Well some of the aristocracy are up themselves as can be seen by watching various documentaries on T.V.

But my observation of many folk who have a woman in to clean the bog is that they are just blooody lazy sods.

As to women thinking that they could be a secretory or similar then that is a very sexist statement to make especially as in this Country one has made prime minister while the other is a Queen.

Every body makes more money than me except the paper girl who'm I always tip due to her setting an example to all the little darlings who rise their feet while sitting on the couch playing on the I pad( so as mummy's domestic help can hoover around their feet).

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My god what a load of unnecessary and pointless bile.

 

I don't clean and choose to pay for a cleaner. I am not green fingered whatsoever and choose to pay for a gardener. I cant iron to save my life so choose to get my clothing laundered by someone else. I certainly don't wash my own car and choose to pay for a gang of foreigners to do it for me.

 

Im busy running my business and looking after my family. I want to spent what little spare time I have doing other things and certainly not domestic chores. Its my choice to spend some of my earned income to pay for someone else to do that.

 

Will it make your head explode if I suggest that I also have staff to type my letters, answer my phone and run errands for me too.

 

Its providing work to people. What's your problem?

 

There are 1001 things people COULD do themselves. There are lots of services that people COULD manage without.

 

Wouldn't do much for the job market though would it.

I do not have a problem and hope that you lead a happy and fruitful life ,by the way who typed this reply for you:hihi:

Don't be daft, you are missing out the key-point of my post, I will repeat for your benefit: People who can AFFORD IT and for whom freeing up time is more valuable than the relatively low cost of employing a cleaner.

 

It is that simple. It is the same as telling people it is stupid to buy prepared meals instead of cooking themselves because that is cheaper. Convenience, it makes life a lot better.

 

PS - you missed out the second point and I'd like you to answer it: Is emancipation of women a bad thing?

Better ask the domestic help;)

People who can afford it and for whom freeing up time is more valuable than the relatively low cost of employing a cleaner.

 

When you work a high stress job the last thing you want is coming home to have to do the ironing or vacuuming. The thing that has happened is that women have become emancipated and actually have careers now rather than being seen as domestic goddesses that run up the credit-card bill. Not sure what your issue is with that to be honest.

Depends on what your high stress is.

Is it getting up at five in the morning to go on a 12 hour shift at the steel works.

Or getting two or three kids up and ready for school before getting the bus to a part time job in the cutlery or other pin money job ,then rushing home from work to get the kids tea ready while having a clean and polish round before dad gets back from his seven days nights or seven days days twelve hour shift.

Stress.

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My sister and husband work long hours, and have a long commute, the last thing they want to do is spend what's left of their evening cleaning the house.

 

They don't even know who the cleaner is, man or woman, they come from an agency and just keep the house clean and tidy. They don't do laundry or window cleaning. If someone wants to pay someone else and provide them with honest work, rather than do it themselves, why should it bother you so much?

As long as they pick up their own grots and don't consider themselves to be a little above their station no probs.

I have friends in the cleaning industry and the state of some of those so called high flyers houses leave a nasty taste in the mouth.

As a part time warden helping old and disabled folk to go about their basic every day tasks , I often get asked if I would clean for the daughter or other relation of my clients.

This always gets me rather angry as the said relation is in most cases just an every day worker just like my self.

These people may have jobs in what they consider to be of higher value than a mere manual worker but usually they are on a forty hour five day week.

Now my point is why do they think that their life style is so important that they would need a cleaner, maid or domestic servant?.

Why can they not clean up for themselves , why do they think that some one else should swill out their bog or pick and put their soiled nickers in the washer this on top of dusting ,window cleaning, hoovering and generally keeping their nice little abode spick and span while they have coffee with the girls, golf with the lads or ride a stationary bike at the gym. (usually reached by BMW or Volvo when they could just walk any way.

Most people of my generation have brought kids up while working part time this on top of performing all their own domestic tasks ,digging the garden, and decorating the home. So what has happened that many in todays yummy mummy, daddy ,society think that they are not capable or indeed above cleaning up their own mess and instead decide to get a woman( usually anyway) in.

No but then this development has been on the cards for years and businesses still there will have had many years of knowing what was coming. The new businesses will be looking forward to the work taking place however.

Which development would that be.

One of my favourite stories about the (not so old) days in Walkley.

 

I suspect many parents of kids that went to local schools in the 90s / 00s will know Dora the Columbian childminder (her of the wonderful hair designs by Elton down at Betty Tygers).

 

Now Dora also used to be take the local Spanish speaking students under her wing, especially those a little naive to the ways of their new city.

 

One group of new students said they loved the city’s clubbing culture but there was nowhere to go out late if you didn’t want a noisy club night, just somewhere to drink and chat. That whole European thing of going out later in the evening and staying out later that Blair supposedly wanted to emulate when the laws were relaxed in 2005.

 

Dora knowing how Walkley worked gave this group of Spanish Students the names of a few likely pubs in the area.

 

Next time she saw them they told her about this bar, a bit scary at first as it was very local, but how they were invited to stay, curtains were drawn at 11.20 and doors closed and they had a brilliant night out till 4am and were treated like long lost best friends.

 

The place in question, the old Top Freedom on a Saturday night lock-in.

 

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back in the day (early 90s) I spent a lot of time drinking till silly hours in the Harlequin off the Wicker when run by Linda Greatorex. Lovely old pub, full of stories sadly long since knocked down to create a carpark. Linda moved up to the Red House.

 

On that long walk back up the hill you'd pass pub after pub at 4am on a Saturday night / Sunday morning with the curtains drawn and the distinctive background murmur and glass chinking of the "private party" going on. My favourite place for this with my OH would have been the Princess Royal.

 

Simply cant recall any trouble at all

I used to get locked in at the Nags Head on West Bar ( not my fault Anita just used to lock the bloody door and if you was in you was in, that inc the cops from West Bar in plain clothes).

One time I glanced through the tap room window and realised it was light outside and the buses had started their early morning run.

Her indoors was not pleased:hihi:.

I'd rather see wolves reintroduced in the Highlands, but the Lynx is a good start.

Wolves are a crap team leave em where they are.

I have read all these posts and still come to the same conclusion.

Why would these Gods allow ,the holocaust, the rape of Nanking, the Armenian genocide, the crusades, The Rwanda genocide , the Bosnia genocide,all followed by todays terrorism that along with most of the atrocities are carried out in the name of and in many cases with the blessing of the respective religions that so many people profess to be good against evil.

Nearly forgot the Spanish civil war where Fascists backed by the church waged war on the poor of that Country.

Is that the stall selling foreign sweet brands? They also sell Spunk.

There is a shop on Chapel Walk that sells all the foreign sweets although the prices are a little high for most people with kids ,Granelies has always sold a wide variety although I do not know if they still do since they moved to the Moor.

As I see it, society tries to punish in accordance with the damage that the crime has caused. However, as the same crime can cause different levels of damage to different people, then the best the law can do is base punishment on the likely (or average) harm that has been done. Some 15 year olds (both girls and/or boys) will be traumatised by inappropriate sexual activity with an older person whereas others will not and will take it in their stride. The best the law can do is to set an (average) age and use that across the board.

 

However, if, on average, the typical age for girls to be upset by inappropriate sexual activity with an older person is higher than it is for boys, then maybe the law should acknowledge this.

It seems to already be it sexual,bank robbery, driving offences , murder, man slaughter ,theft from employers or terrorism the men seem to get longer sentences while women are some times given suspended ones.

Watched the fight on TV and what a fiasco it was .

Bizier completely out of his class ,not Kells fault as it seems as though the so called big hitters in the division avoid him like the plague.

Maybe, just maybe he was sick to the back teeth of lazy dog owners letting "Their" dogs pee & poo everywhere!! I know I am!!

 

Why don't these so-called animal lovers let their animals empty the contents of their bowels and bladder in their own garden?? I'll tell you why.....because they're all bleedin' lazy....that's why!

 

Personally I'm sick to the teeth of it. We now have a daily stream of scum that come to the church next to our house for no other reason than to let their dogs do their business.....utterly disgusting!!

These blinkin church goers are all the same ,one we know pinches cuttings from our front garden ,she does it casually while pretending to bend down and pick up dog muck.

The Red Lion at Gleadless Town End was our trip into Derbyshire, the race from the Heeley and Sheffield house over the border into Derbyshire to get the extra half hour in was a sight to be seen.

Alec Caley once did it in two minutes flat still a record to this day.

My children recently got themselves two husky puppies who are very energetic. On days when they are at college or working I find it impossible to take them for walks as I am disabled. Can anyone tell me if there is anywhere I can let them run loose safely to get rid of some of their energy and let them have some fun rather than going at a boring snail's pace with "nana".

You will find that some dog owners get very mardy when young running dogs (like the ones your kids have) start running around on public land Mogsley.

To be truthful they are not breeds that should be locked up for long periods of time and they may have to be re homed to some one with a big garden or access to land.

I hope this does not sound off putting but I have similar experience with our Ted who is a very large dog that was shut up for long periods by his previous working full time owners.

Welcome to the forum.

He is a slime ball but ,would the sentence he received be the same for a 26 year old woman teacher who had had a relationship with say a 15 year old boy.

I ask this because I knew a lad who had a fling with his teacher and after leaving school actually went to live with her for a while ,he was treated like a hero by all his mates and still looks back on it with his bar stories to this day.

I have always thought that it was illegal to park on pavements, in fact over my long driving career I am certain that I have heard of drivers being fined for parking with two wheels on the kerb. I have also heard of drivers being fined for parking more than nine inches away from the kerb edge.

However there is currently a bill going through Parliament notably the 'Pavement Parking (Protection of Vulnerable Pedestrians) Bill 2015-16' so an end to your problem may be in sight.

We live on a bus route and

if we all did not park with two wheels on the pavement the bus would not get through. This includes people with blue badges.

A few of us have had mirrors smashed and scraped paintwork due to this .

The pavements are six foot wide so plenty of room for all to get by.

If we have to park fully on the road that is the end of the bus route a route used by many disabled passengers in our district .

The nearest car park is a mile away and charges .

No, samssong, the rescue centre you adopted from should have sent off your details, if he was a private rescue, that is down to you to change it, if you have the chip number, phone petlog, who will advise you,I believe it is around £15.

Cheers it was a private rescue.

You all missed a treat today, all the saggy maggies were telling the public what underwear they wear, Gloria hunniford revealed she doesn't wear anything. It knocked me sick. and I bet I have nightmares.

Did they mention what their original hair colour is while they were at it:hihi:

This Saturday (26th March 2016) the RSPCA are microchipping dogs for FREE!

 

At the RSPCA Sheffield Animal Centre, Stadium Way, Attercliffe, S9 3HN. Between 10am-2pm.

 

Only a few weeks now before it is LAW to have your dog microchipped so if yours isn't already done, please take advantage of this!

So you are saying that in the last three years, the European Union has issued 9 new Laws every single day that effects the UK?

 

Please provide the link, I can't wait to see this.

Google it.

Care to explain A) where you got that number from and B) how that relates to you having to understand them?

Googled it .

By the way it says one would need 96 days to just read the ****e that these bandwagoners in the EU have come up with regarding these laws.

Did Dusty wear glasses perched on the end of his nose.

I knew a Dusty(Mick) who frequented the Royal Oak on Cemetery Road as well as the Smithywood Club he lived with Tony Kay's ex wife Marina .

Dusty died last year while living at Upperthorpe.

Thank you for stating that so clearly Jeffrey, a lot of people have a lot of trouble understanding this point.

Three thousand six hundred new laws effecting Britain in the last three years.

Thirteen million words written to describe them.

A lot of people have a lot of trouble reading them:huh:

Its pretty simple. There are bombs and terror attacks around the world, but 90% of them are in Muslim countries. There are people killed around the world everyday by terrorists, but 90% of them are in Muslim countries. There are terrorists around the world but 90% of them are Muslims.

The safest way of taking a holiday is to take it where there are fewest Muslims. A country where you have to be Muslim to live there probably isn't a great choice nor is a country where the Muslims living there are trying to kill or drive out anyone who doesn't conform to the Muslim faith. You probably missed that Turkey has had a bomb blast every couple of weeks not just one over the last decade.

 

http://www.defensenews.com/story/defense/international/europe/2016/03/21/new-bomb-attack-paralyzes-life-turkey/82064738/

 

ANKARA — For the fifth time since October, another bomb has rocked one of Turkey's two biggest cities — Istanbul and Ankara — pushing the overall death toll in recent months to nearly 200 with hundreds more injured.

 

It isn't rocket science you know.

Let us hope that we have left the EU before Germany forces through their wish that Turkey becomes a member .That will be the end of Europe and the planned expansion of the Muslim World will be nearer its final outcome .

Get out of this so called Union now!