Pyrotequila Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 https://www.thestar.co.uk/business/clean-air-zone-sheffield-city-council-planning-to-decommission-system-which-raised-ps7m-in-first-year-4542235 Like that's ever going to happen, as long as it keeps raking in the cash, they must think we're all gullible Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planner1 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 1 hour ago, Pyrotequila said: https://www.thestar.co.uk/business/clean-air-zone-sheffield-city-council-planning-to-decommission-system-which-raised-ps7m-in-first-year-4542235 Like that's ever going to happen, as long as it keeps raking in the cash, they must think we're all gullible The government made them implement the CAZ. As far as I can see, neither the government nor the council wanted to do it, they just had to following the court action. The council are being prudent and setting aside money to decommission the system when it’s not needed anymore. Other places that have CAZ’s are doing the same. But, you still criticise them. The council is run by politicians, who want to be re-elected. They will probably see it as a vote winner to decommission the CAZ as soon as they can. So, you might be pleasantly surprised. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffbag Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 24 minutes ago, Planner1 said: The government made them implement the CAZ. As far as I can see, neither the government nor the council wanted to do it, they just had to following the court action. The council are being prudent and setting aside money to decommission the system when it’s not needed anymore. Other places that have CAZ’s are doing the same. But, you still criticise them. The council is run by politicians, who want to be re-elected. They will probably see it as a vote winner to decommission the CAZ as soon as they can. So, you might be pleasantly surprised. Not going to happen. the Caz has to run for 2 years minimum as per SCC's own paper. After that 2 years certain monitoring stations will still be over 40 and therefore the CAZ will stay. Its never going for the foreseeable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planner1 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 7 minutes ago, sheffbag said: Not going to happen. the Caz has to run for 2 years minimum as per SCC's own paper. After that 2 years certain monitoring stations will still be over 40 and therefore the CAZ will stay. Its never going for the foreseeable Yes, that’s what I meant, as soon as they have satisfied the legal requirements, which means all sites in the zone have to be compliant for 2 years. You’d hope that if the only exceedance of the legal limits is at the rail station, there might be a conversation with the government to see if the CAZ can be removed, as the government are the only ones who can reduce / remove the emissions from the trains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffbag Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 1 hour ago, Planner1 said: Yes, that’s what I meant, as soon as they have satisfied the legal requirements, which means all sites in the zone have to be compliant for 2 years. You’d hope that if the only exceedance of the legal limits is at the rail station, there might be a conversation with the government to see if the CAZ can be removed, as the government are the only ones who can reduce / remove the emissions from the trains. no chance of that as they would have had it at the start of the discussions and you cant remove/reduce the emissions from the trains Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planner1 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 1 hour ago, sheffbag said: no chance of that as they would have had it at the start of the discussions and you cant remove/reduce the emissions from the trains You can reduce train emissions by electrifying the network, but that won’t happen anytime soon. There were originally other locations in the city centre which weren’t compliant. If they become compliant and the station area isn’t and won’t be due to train emissions, you would hope that there might be a conversation with the government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffbag Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 2 hours ago, Planner1 said: You can reduce train emissions by electrifying the network, but that won’t happen anytime soon. There were originally other locations in the city centre which weren’t compliant. If they become compliant and the station area isn’t and won’t be due to train emissions, you would hope that there might be a conversation with the government. We discussed this many times pre introduction. there were 4 areas over 40 in the findings. i seriously doubt that any of these will become compliant in the next 5 years unless the entire bus fleet is electrified. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planner1 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 34 minutes ago, sheffbag said: We discussed this many times pre introduction. there were 4 areas over 40 in the findings. i seriously doubt that any of these will become compliant in the next 5 years unless the entire bus fleet is electrified. We’ll have some indication when the fist year results are published Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffbag Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 13 minutes ago, Planner1 said: We’ll have some indication when the fist year results are published or to put it another way, during covid when traffic was about 20% of the current levels they were still over 40 so do you really think that it will have dropped down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Planner1 Posted March 6 Share Posted March 6 18 minutes ago, sheffbag said: or to put it another way, during covid when traffic was about 20% of the current levels they were still over 40 so do you really think that it will have dropped down Probably not, but you never know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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