More Christian Terrorism in the USA

[headup 10]

How is this trolling?

 

Because Don doesn't like the contents of the original post and what it suggests so therefore it is trolling.

[Baldyshef 10]

Western Commontators these days constantly remind us about the Holacaust, pol pot, saddam hussein, milosovic, the chinese regime, but the crusades are never mentioned. More than likely in other parts of the world they mention and are taught about the crusades in the same way.

 

Everything else you just mentioned was in the last 100 years and some is directly applicable to whats going on in the world today...The crusades started 1000 years ago...Is it really a surprise they arent mentioned so often?

[chuffinel 10]

Talking about christian terrorism, it seems that the crimes against humanity perpetuated by the christians in those days would shock most people. Apparently after one event it took 3 weeks to kill all the prisoners, as there were so many of them.

 

This is the kind of shameful history which is left out at school and censored from young ears, which the rest of the world and most probably the muslim world will learn as a matter of course.

 

Western Commontators these days constantly remind us about the Holacaust, pol pot, saddam hussein, milosovic, the chinese regime, but the crusades are never mentioned. More than likely in other parts of the world they mention and are taught about the crusades in the same way.

Not to excuse this but you're talking about events that happened during the crusades almost 1000 years ago

Reportedly by Richard (so called Lionheart)

I think that the west as a whole has moved on a little from then.

[plekhanov 10]

So when you say "oh my God" you actually mean it? I think not!

 

Just because this perosn points out that God is pro-life doesnt mean to say that

 

a) He is a Christian

b) They claimed the attack was Gods will

c) Anything to do with Christianity at all really

 

So...your point was?

From an article in the Baltimore Sun:

 

Last year, Weiler's father filed a letter in Prince George's County Circuit Court, offering to take in a friend of his son's who had violated his parole after pleading guilty to defacing churches with spray-painted slurs, the Associated Press reported.

 

In the letter, the elder Weiler wrote that his family was active in the Catholic community at nearby Andrews Air Force Base and that he was an officer in a local chapter of the Knights of Columbus, a men's Catholic social organization that is strongly anti-abortion.

 

The letter also said that at that time, Robert Weiler Jr. was working as a manager-in-training at a Pizza Hut in Laurel and was living with his parents.

So we have a citizen of a Christian country, brought up in and living with a Christian family involved in a Christian anti-choice organisation, who has confessed to trying to blow up one of the targets of that organisation.

 

If the suspect was from an Islamic country, & part of an Islamic family involved with Islamic anti-choice organisations would you query for a second somebody describing the suspect as Islamic?

[muddycoffee 10]

Not to excuse this but you're talking about events that happened during the crusades almost 1000 years ago

Reportedly by Richard (so called Lionheart)

I think that the west as a whole has moved on a little from then.

 

Yes the west has moved on but some in the Muslim world is apparently still very upset about it.

[chuffinel 10]

Yes the west has moved on but some in the Muslim world is apparently still very upset about it.

I know how they feel. I hate Italians because of what the Romans did in Britain 2000 years ago.

Not too fussy about Scandinavians or Normans either.

What a crock !

[kay_cee 10]

I've discussed this before on another thread.

The big difference is, and the question that needs to be answered here, is do the individuals/groups clearly get their justification to kill from their respective holy texts, or are they merely killing irrespective of and contrary to, their texts?

With the latter, the indivduals need to be brought to account, with the former, the whole religion does.

 

Buddhists, Hindus, & Christians who commit these kind of atrocities, in the name of their religion ( I specify that, as Hitler for example never commited his crimes in the name of Christianity, but people seem to drag him up as the 'Christian example') are without exception, going against their holy texts.

While Islam on the other hand gives it's followers, not only clear orders but perfect justification to kill the 'Infidels', and promises them eternal 'rewards' for doing so.

That is the difference.

 

So nice try plekhanov, but 'Christian terrorism' just doesn't wash.

[artisan 10]

Apparently not. It's funny how it doesn't attract the same amount of oral foaming that a thread containing the phrase 'muslim terrorist' does.

Because the bloke is an individual nutter with his own wierd agenda.

The others are a massive organisation trying to destroy my way of life.

If people want to live the life of a Muslim then goodo for them.

Dont make me do it as well.

[Avalon 10]

If the suspect was from an Islamic country, & part of an Islamic family involved with Islamic anti-choice organisations would you query for a second somebody describing the suspect as Islamic?

 

Yes i would. Based on the information you posted initally i would have queried it just the same.

[Plain Talker 11]

Because the bloke is an individual nutter with his own wierd agenda.

The others are a massive organisation trying to destroy my way of life.

If people want to live the life of a Muslim then goodo for them.

Dont make me do it as well.

 

Artisan, no-one's expecting you to do so:- in what way is your own life affected by Islam? (apart from buying into the terror lie, and giving unnecessary credence to the lame threats of a few extreme individuals?)

 

you are entitled to follow any religion, or none, as you chose, because we have freedom of religion in this country.

 

PT

[artisan 10]

Artisan, no-one's expecting you to do so:- in what way is your own life affected by Islam? (apart from buying into the terror lie, and giving unnecessary credence to the lame threats of a few extreme individuals?)

 

you are entitled to follow any religion, or none, as you chose, because we have freedom of religion in this country.

 

PT

This is not true though is it?

I understand that Mohammed allowed people he conquered to continue as long as they were Jews or Christians. I think they are called 'People of the Book'.

If they were Pagans, or had no God, then they had to convert or be put the sword.

This surely means that any socialist or communist is a dead man, as has been proved in Afghanistan, Chechnia, Bosnia and elsewhere?

[Plain Talker 11]

last time I looked at an atlas, Hipperholme was nowhere near any of those places, it was firmly in a country with freedom of religion.

 

so even in your imagination, you have nothing to fear.

 

PT