chakademus Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Example of what? I'm not saying taxes don't exist, or that they don't sometimes go up! As it happens, those on benefits or a low income can claim a council tax reduction of up to 100%. https://www.gov.uk/apply-council-tax-reduction Not true. Welfares been cut, benefit claimants make a contribution, you are talking about things you clearly have no knowledge of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 So the fact the income tax burden on the top 1% has trebled since the 1970s is a lie? Where does the figure come from, it's not one I recognise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin-H Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Not true. Welfares been cut, benefit claimants make a contribution, you are talking about things you clearly have no knowledge of. What's not true? I provided a link to the government's website. It might not be true in Sheffield, as the link clearly says, What you get depends on: where you live - each council runs its own scheme. That doesn't mean it isn't true. ---------- Post added 21-08-2018 at 19:24 ---------- Where does the figure come from, it's not one I recognise. https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/19/tax-burden-wealthy-has-trebled-since-1970s-telegraph-analysis/ They are HMRC statistics. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Example of what? I'm not saying taxes don't exist, or that they don't sometimes go up! As it happens, those on benefits or a low income can claim a council tax reduction of up to 100%. https://www.gov.uk/apply-council-tax-reduction Those who can't get a council tax break though, so the low paid just out of the welfare band are taxed at basically the same rate as the comfortable and the well off. CT is a regressive tax. VAT is a regressive tax. I found the article about the 1%. Then I found this. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/lowest-earners-more-tax-richest-office-national-statistics-inequality-council-tax-vat-equality-trust-a7704331.html It really depends on how you look at it doesn't it. ---------- Post added 21-08-2018 at 19:38 ---------- The figure in the telegraph is specifically about income tax isn't it. No consideration for indirect taxation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin-H Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Those who can't get a council tax break though, so the low paid just out of the welfare band are taxed at basically the same rate as the comfortable and the well off. CT is a regressive tax. VAT is a regressive tax. I found the article about the 1%. Then I found this. https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/lowest-earners-more-tax-richest-office-national-statistics-inequality-council-tax-vat-equality-trust-a7704331.html It really depends on how you look at it doesn't it. ---------- Post added 21-08-2018 at 19:38 ---------- The figure in the telegraph is specifically about income tax isn't it. No consideration for indirect taxation. We've spoken about stealth taxes, if that's what you mean by indirect taxation. These are also lowest for the lowest earners, as per the article I linked earlier. Of course as a proportion of income the lowest earners will pay out more in taxes, but they also receive the most in benefits. The system is set out to reduce these differences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakademus Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 What's not true? I provided a link to the government's website. It might not be true in Sheffield, as the link clearly says, What you get depends on: where you live - each council runs its own scheme. That doesn't mean it isn't true. ---------- Post added 21-08-2018 at 19:24 ---------- https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2017/03/19/tax-burden-wealthy-has-trebled-since-1970s-telegraph-analysis/ They are HMRC statistics. Don't need a link. They cut wellfare, housing benefit & council tax benefit from 2011 onwards. Why are you ignoring all the damaging cuts? ---------- Post added 21-08-2018 at 20:54 ---------- We've spoken about stealth taxes, if that's what you mean by indirect taxation. These are also lowest for the lowest earners, as per the article I linked earlier. Of course as a proportion of income the lowest earners will pay out more in taxes, but they also receive the most in benefits. The system is set out to reduce these differences. Welfares been cut. This simply isn't true. The lack of safety net is reason for growing homelessness & temp accommodation ---------- Post added 21-08-2018 at 20:57 ---------- Housing went to LHA rate, under 35s got cut & over 35s get a 1 bed rate. Even disabled are asked to contribute out of benefits. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robin-H Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 Don't need a link. They cut wellfare, housing benefit & council tax benefit from 2011 onwards. Why are you ignoring all the damaging cuts? ---------- Post added 21-08-2018 at 20:54 ---------- Welfares been cut. This simply isn't true. The lack of safety net is reason for growing homelessness & temp accommodation ---------- Post added 21-08-2018 at 20:57 ---------- Housing went to LHA rate, under 35s got cut & over 35s get a 1 bed rate. Even disabled are asked to contribute out of benefits. What 'simply isn't true'? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakademus Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 What 'simply isn't true'? The statement about benefits claimants. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
phil752 Posted August 21, 2018 Share Posted August 21, 2018 What level of taxation would you call high? How much of your earnings do you pay tax on? I earn around £15k and I pay a small amount of tax. your post seems to have been overlooked can someone answer him? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chakademus Posted August 22, 2018 Share Posted August 22, 2018 your post seems to have been overlooked can someone answer him? I answered that earlier. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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