banjodeano   31 #193 Posted January 8, 2016 Now that's hardly a great endorsement of Corbyn, to liken him to Hitler...We all know that didn't end well!  I'm not likening him to hitler, I am likening the same response of ridecule, there is a difference,? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
foxy lady   10 #194 Posted January 8, 2016 (edited) I'm not likening him to hitler, I am likening the same response of ridecule, there is a difference,?  It looks like you were likening him to Hitler to me. Myself I would liken him to Kim Jong-un. Feared by some because of the danger he poses to world security and his stupid backwards ideas that keep his people in abject poverty, but ultimately just a communist idiot. And one who would have about as much success as Corbyn should he be leading Labour at the time of the next general election. Edited January 8, 2016 by foxy lady Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
PeteMorris   10 #195 Posted January 8, 2016 I'm not likening him to hitler, I am likening the same response of ridecule, there is a difference,?  It looks like you were likening him to Hitler to me.  In actual fact it's probably, although accidental, correct, ... They're both flippin' dangerous! Dangerous for the country and economy. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Alan Ladd   10 #196 Posted January 8, 2016 (edited) oh its fearing him all right, have you ever known a press attack a leader of the opposition so much? it is unprecedented the amount of abuse he has had, and you think they are not scared, oh indeed they are, you just go along with the fear line if you want....  recent public opinion polls... • He supports a publicly run NHS, a position supported by 84% of the public. • He supports the nationalisation of the railways, a position backed by 66% of the public. • He supports the nationalisation of the energy companies, a position supported by 68% of the public. • He believes the Royal Mail should be publicly owned, a position supported by 67% of the public. • He supports rent controls, a position supported by 60% of the public. • He has long pushed for the withdrawal of British troops from Afghanistan, a position favoured by 82% of the public. he will Make Labour Back to Labour.  ---------- Post added 08-01-2016 at 10:02 ----------  Wrong again Eric...£3 doenst make you a member?  I admire your tenacity but you are deluded. A read through of the above brilliant posts from people across the political spectrum show the real truth. All see the extreme that the Labour party has been led to. All see the need for strong opposition and at least a two party system.  The simple fact is that with Corbyn Labour is unelectable. If the situation lasts we may well see the Conservatives winning seats in areas previously considered Labour strongholds. You have seen what happened to Labour in Scotland.  Unless you and those who treasure the Labour legacy and want to see it progress and adapt to a 21st century situation dont act you are consigning this once great party to oblivion.  I do not in any way underestimate Corbyn, he could the beneficiary of bad news, the world economy again stands on the brink. Unpredictable events, as unlikely as they seem now could lead him to power. If he was so empowered I believe that he and those of his mindset are in essence Fascist and as dangerous as Hitler and Mussolini.  ---------- Post added 08-01-2016 at 13:30 ----------  Great thought out response Eric.. Argument is always lost when it becomes personel... Back to your comment that they were laughing at Corbyn.. Did you not realise that they always try to belittle and make a fool of the people they fear.. People are too dumb to realise that tho... They just suck it up.. I recal they did much the same with Hitler. And they were scared to death of him   No one laughed at Hitler on the way up. They just did nothing about him. Edited January 8, 2016 by Alan Ladd Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
alchresearch   215 #197 Posted January 8, 2016 The real problem is that most Labour voter do support Corbyn. That's where his huge majority came from.  Yes and No. I know a lot of Labour supporters who felt he was the best of a bad lot and that they'd rather have him mess it up that any of the other New Labour cronies settle in to the position. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Alan Ladd   10 #198 Posted January 8, 2016 Yes and No. I know a lot of Labour supporters who felt he was the best of a bad lot and that they'd rather have him mess it up that any of the other New Labour cronies settle in to the position.  Your comment illustrates the problem with UK politics. There is a singular lack of talent throughout. I support Cameron and think Osborne will make a good PM when the time comes, once you have said that Johnson, May, I dont think so.  On the Labour benches it is as bad, Alan Johnson is a talented man and would make a good PM. After him, who? None of those who stood against Corbyn inspire confidence.  It seems to me that "career" politicians have a vested interest in just staying around getting paid. In the days when the Labour MPs came from the Trade Unions, backed by some from the professions we had true talent and aspiration. Similarly when the Tories came from business, agriculture, and landed gentry we had people with opinions and standpoints.  We had great back benchers, only Frank Field stands out today.  In Corbyn Labour has reached its nadir. If the Tories ever elect Johnson they will reach theirs. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Berberis   10 #199 Posted January 8, 2016 (edited) I can see why Corbyn would want to have a debate. he doesn't explain himself but prefers to exude a moral high-ground as reason enough.  I can see it now.  Interviewer: Mr Corbyn, do you agree with Trident? Corbyn: No. Interviewer: Why? Corbyn: Because its the right thing to do.  Interviewer: Mr Cameron, do you agree with Trident? Cameron: Yes. Interviewer: Why? Cameron: Because its the right thing to do. Interviewer: Why?  Corbyn gives simple answers to complex questions and incorrectly some see this as refreshing. Edited January 8, 2016 by Berberis Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
srt2016   10 #200 Posted January 8, 2016 I can see why Corbyn would want to have a debate. he doesn't explain himself but prefers to exude a moral high-ground as reason enough. I can see it now.  Interviewer: Mr Corbyn, do you agree with Trident? Corbyn: No. Interviewer: Why? Corbyn: Because its the right thing to do.  Interviewer: Mr Cameron, do you agree with Trident? Cameron: Yes. Interviewer: Why? Cameron: Because its the right thing to do. Interviewer: Why?  Corbyn gives simple answer to complex questions and incorrectly some see this as refreshing.  Any direct answer from a politician is refreshing but I doubt very much you would get a yes out of Cameron.Bluster maybe not not a yes. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Eric Arthur   10 #201 Posted January 8, 2016 I'm not likening him to hitler, I am likening the same response of ridecule, there is a difference,?  Don't liken him to Hitler. That's an insult to Hitler's intellect and capability although they do share the traits of insane ideology and wrong-headedness. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
banjodeano   31 #202 Posted January 8, 2016 It looks like you were likening him to Hitler to me. Myself I would liken him to Kim Jong-un. Feared by some because of the danger he poses to world security and his stupid backwards ideas that keep his people in abject poverty, but ultimately just a communist idiot. And one who would have about as much success as Corbyn should he be leading Labour at the time of the next general election. Crikey....the fear factor has certainly been cranked up by the bull**** feeding media, they have put you into a right frenzy getting you to compare Corbyn with Kim Jong...are you really serious comparing the two?  I admire your tenacity but you are deluded. A read through of the above brilliant posts from people across the political spectrum show the real truth. All see the extreme that the Labour party has been led to. All see the need for strong opposition and at least a two party system. The simple fact is that with Corbyn Labour is unelectable. If the situation lasts we may well see the Conservatives winning seats in areas previously considered Labour strongholds. You have seen what happened to Labour in Scotland.  Unless you and those who treasure the Labour legacy and want to see it progress and adapt to a 21st century situation dont act you are consigning this once great party to oblivion.  I do not in any way underestimate Corbyn, he could the beneficiary of bad news, the world economy again stands on the brink. Unpredictable events, as unlikely as they seem now could lead him to power. If he was so empowered I believe that he and those of his mindset are in essence Fascist and as dangerous as Hitler and Mussolini.  ---------- Post added 08-01-2016 at 13:30 ----------    No one laughed at Hitler on the way up. They just did nothing about him. Hmmm, you seem confused here somewhat Allan, first you say "Labour with Corbyn is unelectable"......then in the next breath........."as unlikely as they seem now could lead him to power" :huh: So.....has he a chance of getting to power or not :huh: You are indeed correct, no one laughed at Hitler on the way up, but that wasnt my point..up or down is not relevant. What is relevant is, the media are laughing at Corby through fear, and of the hope that the drip feeding of ridicule of him will feed into peoples mindset...as is clearly the case  ---------- Post added 08-01-2016 at 18:15 ----------  You see, absolutely hysterical! You're like a modern day Alf Garnett. Keep it up, you're brilliant!! I'm still trying to figure out why you would liken a me to Alf Garnett, as far as i recall Garnett was a racist bigoted Tory...and i as a socialist are none of the above, please enlighten me  ---------- Post added 08-01-2016 at 18:15 ----------  Don't liken him to Hitler. I didnt Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Eric Arthur   10 #203 Posted January 8, 2016 I'm still trying to figure out why you would liken a me to Alf Garnett, as far as i recall Garnett was a racist bigoted Tory...and i as a socialist are none of the above, please enlighten me  Brilliant! Love it! You should be on the stage!!  Go on, you know you want to https://application.xfactor.tv/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
banjodeano   31 #204 Posted January 8, 2016 Brilliant! Love it! You should be on the stage!!  Go on, you know you want to https://application.xfactor.tv/  Eric, i come on here to debate and discuss various subjects, i listen to peoples opinions, and offer mine in reply, it appears that you just come on here (some of the time) to just to troll, if you have nothing sensible or informative to offer, go and annoy someone else Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...