Timeh Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 do you think a lot of these crimes are made up? Genune question. A lot? Who knows but its doubtful. Some? Maybe, its possible. What i do know is that 0% of men i know have assaulted a women so your 'up to 30%' is nonsensical. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sgtkate Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 The reasons why a sex attacker might feel safer committing his crimes on train carriages are fairly obvious. However, mixed sex carriages have been around for a long time and therefore don't explain the 25% increase in reported attacks. The reason for the increase must be: More women are reporting offences More men don't respect women It is probably a bit of both. The first is a good thing because if we can't see a problem then we can't fix it. The second is a bad thing and begs the question... what has changed socially for us to suddenly find we have more men who don't respect women and therefore more women being attacked? What is the root cause of the increase? I genuinely think it's because people have realised they can get away with it. Same as bad driving on the roads or illegal parking or loud noise etc. People seem to have become selfish and only stop being so when forced or fear of consequences. Find a way to make these people suffer more consequences and these assaults will almost certainly start to drop. Easier said than done though...how are you going to catch a brush of someones behind on a busy train? Education of women is needed as well I think to give more confidence in standing up and not accepting this kind of behaviour. Another poster further up said she felt it was almost normal now to be groped, well it's not so everyone (men and women) need to start acting like it's not ok. To answer the poll, no I don't think it's a good idea for women only carriages, but unless something else changes it might be the only way to help protect women from sexual assaults in this way. I'd much prefer education and changing of values over segregation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timeh Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 It was a survey by Mumsnet and the most likley people to respond to a survey about sexual assault are people that have been sexually assaulted. You should pay a visit to mumsnet then. Familiarise yourself with some of the rabid man haters on there lol ---------- Post added 26-08-2015 at 12:21 ---------- Its not a claim. ive just reported figures and drew a conclusion. If you have a better source im all ears! Your 30% is a claim and an exaggerated one at that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 If you have a better study, lets see it... The British Crime survey reports 2 sex offences per 1000 population.. that's a far cry from the mumsnet survey.. http://www.ons.gov.uk/ons/rel/crime-stats/crime-statistics/year-ending-march-2015/stb-crime-march-2015.html#tab-Sexual-offences Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sakho Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 But only 1/3 surveyed said they had been sexually assaulted. So how do you come to that conclusion? Today, Mumsnet has 4.3 million unique users a month, posting upwards of 35,000 messages a day. If only 1% of users have have been sexually assaulted and you conduct a survey about sexual assault, there are 43000 people that have been sexually assaulted that could respond and 4,257,000 that haven't that could respond. If only 1600 people respond then any finding is meaningless because the 1600 respondents are more likley to have belonged to the minority group. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJC1 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 A lot? Who knows but its doubtful. Some? Maybe, its possible. What i do know is that 0% of men i know have assaulted a women so your 'up to 30%' is nonsensical. Do you think if they had assaulted women, children etc they would say? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Today, Mumsnet has 4.3 million unique users a month, posting upwards of 35,000 messages a day. If only 1% of users have have been sexually assaulted and you conduct a survey about sexual assault, there are 43000 people that have been sexually assaulted that could respond and 4,257,000 that haven't that could respond. If only 1600 people respond then any finding is meaningless because the 1600 respondents are more likley to have belonged to the minority group. Self selecting bias. It's not a cross sectional sample, because people who have been assaulted are more likely to respond than those who haven't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TJC1 Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 You should pay a visit to mumsnet then. Familiarise yourself with some of the rabid man haters on there lol ---------- Post added 26-08-2015 at 12:21 ---------- Your 30% is a claim and an exaggerated one at that. I didnt claim 30%. I said UP TO!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cyclone Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 Do you think if they had assaulted women, children etc they would say? I think I'd know if someone I knew was that kind of person (and I'd no longer know them). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted August 26, 2015 Share Posted August 26, 2015 I didnt claim 30%. I said UP TO!!!! So it could be 0% ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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