El Cid Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 The problem you're going to have is that we had a referendum on AV which is the first step in the long transition to some kind of PR. It was defeated by 2:1. Very few of the political parties supported AV, so the vote went against it. A little like elected Mayors, but now Cameron is giving some regions Mayors, its a shambles. Some areas with a Mayor and some without. It was daft to suggest it was a move towards PR, just get the right system and use it, it was a ploy by Cameron to kick it into the long grass, and it worked. With PR Cameron would not have all the power he has now. A good thing to clean up politics, would be to force MPs to answer questions, might work for this forum too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Very few of the political parties supported AV, so the vote went against it. A little like elected Mayors, but now Cameron is giving some regions Mayors, its a shambles. Some areas with a Mayor and some without. It was daft to suggest it was a move towards PR, just get the right system and use it, it was a ploy by Cameron to kick it into the long grass, and it worked. With PR Cameron would not have all the power he has now. A good thing to clean up politics, would be to force MPs to answer questions, might work for this forum too All the polling I've ever seen suggests that PR would have even less support than AV. AV was a compromise as whilst it is not proportional, it usually leads to more proportional results. You're not wrong that PR has it's advantages, but you're facing a long uphill battle to persuade the UK people that the advantages outweigh the disadvantages. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bonzo77 Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Clean up polotics? Vote for Jeremy Corbyn! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Clean up polotics? Vote for Jeremy Corbyn! Okay. So you'd like the next general election to be a contest between the Conservatives and UKIP? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Clean up polotics? Vote for Jeremy Corbyn! The electorate had a 'Left' alternative to Labour, but they didnt vote Green in vast numbers because of our first past the post system. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 The electorate had a 'Left' alternative to Labour, but they didnt vote Green in vast numbers because of our first past the post system. Didn't really stop anybody voting UKIP. There's value in a vote even if it doesn't lead to a seat. It tends to cause the other parties to reconsider their policies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Didn't really stop anybody voting UKIP. Do you really think that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 Do you really think that? 4 million votes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 4 million votes. To elect one MP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted August 5, 2015 Share Posted August 5, 2015 To elect one MP That's not the point. Those 4 million people knew UKIP were going to be severely under-represented in parliament, but voted for them anyway. There's value in a vote even if it doesn't lead to a seat. It tends to cause the other parties to reconsider their policies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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