JFKvsNixon Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 What im asking is do people feel that 'fatism' for want of a better word is the same as sexism, homophobia or racism. Simple really. So, to bring things back on track, Do you? Do you feel abuse against bigger people should be categorised as hate speech? What does it matter? Are you trying to work out a league table of obnoxious behaviour? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timeh Posted July 20, 2015 Author Share Posted July 20, 2015 It is from the perspective of being abused because of it (the victim)..you will know this because of you disabilities. And no, I'm not saying being Gay, a woman, or Black is a disability, but some do find a comfort in compartmentalizing. I was the butt of many a joke but im lucky in that it didnt effect me too negatively and only seemed to increase my resolve to do things like other people could. In the end i was better than lots of my piers at things i was told id never be able to do so no, i dont know that as a result of my disabilities. If i was called a name id call one back, if i was picked on physically id hit them with my crutch. I was a resilient lad and never considered my abuse to be hate speech. I just got on with things. Today though we have groups of people wanting the hate speech label to apply to anyone calling larger or obese people names. Im just asking if people agree with this. I will say though, thanks. Yours is the only sensible reply ive had and i appreciate it ---------- Post added 20-07-2015 at 15:45 ---------- What does it matter? Are you trying to work out a league table of obnoxious behaviour? No. Im just curious. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bloke Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 I will say though, thanks. Yours is the only sensible reply ive had and i appreciate it I'm sorry... my mistake... ... I didn't realise you did sensible threads! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timeh Posted July 20, 2015 Author Share Posted July 20, 2015 I'm sorry... my mistake... ... I didn't realise you did sensible threads! Glad i was able to dispel another myth. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cassity Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 I was the butt of many a joke but im lucky in that it didnt effect me too negatively and only seemed to increase my resolve to do things like other people could. In the end i was better than lots of my piers at things i was told id never be able to do so no, i dont know that as a result of my disabilities. If i was called a name id call one back, if i was picked on physically id hit them with my crutch. I was a resilient lad and never considered my abuse to be hate speech. I just got on with things. Today though we have groups of people wanting the hate speech label to apply to anyone calling larger or obese people names. Im just asking if people agree with this. I will say though, thanks. Yours is the only sensible reply ive had and i appreciate it The issue isn't who or what you are or how you dealt with it..we all deal with stuff differently simply because we are different. The issue is how someone perceives you simply because of what they see and not what they know. it's THEIR issue simply because of prejudice. You can't negate prejudice simply because you were able to shrug it off, otherwise prejudice, bigotry etc would simply be defined by how able you are to shrug. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timeh Posted July 20, 2015 Author Share Posted July 20, 2015 The issue isn't who or what you are or how you dealt with it..we all deal with stuff differently simply because we are different. The issue is how someone perceives you simply because of what they see and not what they know. it's THEIR issue simply because of prejudice. You can't negate prejudice simply because you were able to shrug it off, otherwise prejudice, bigotry etc would simply be defined by how able you are to shrug. I wasnt negating anything. Like i pointed out, i was lucky in being able to deal with people and in no way was it intended as a yardstick as to how others should. Can i take it from your reply you are in favour of it being labelled hate speech? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anna B Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 I presume the OP sees obesity as something that is within the person's own control, and they can therefore 'be shamed' into doing something to reverse it. If only it were that simple. Doctors now know that it is a lot more complex than just calories in = energy out, and are starting to do more extensive research into the problem. But as for the original question, I don't think anyone should 'have the right' to be rude to anyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Timeh Posted July 20, 2015 Author Share Posted July 20, 2015 I think I now know the OP's next thread... Come on im waiting. I need to know what my next thread will be:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chelle-82 Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 I'll answer you... No, I don't think it is the same, at all! Aside from those who suffer medically with their weight, the majority of overweight people are overweight because of too many calories going into their mouths and not doing enough exercise.. Being black / gay / disabled isn't a choice and the abuse these folk get is appalling.. If you are fat and you don't like being called names then lose weight!! eat less, move more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JFKvsNixon Posted July 20, 2015 Share Posted July 20, 2015 I'll answer you... No, I don't think it is the same, at all! Aside from those who suffer medically with their weight, the majority of overweight people are overweight because of too many calories going into their mouths and not doing enough exercise.. Being black / gay / disabled isn't a choice and the abuse these folk get is appalling.. If you are fat and you don't like being called names then lose weight!! eat less, move more. I've asked this question before on this thread, but I'll ask it again. Why is there the need to insult anyone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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