El Cid Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Before the election we had pro EU parties having the policy of renegotiate, but stay in; it now seems that the Conservative have that policy too. Very disingenuous. Or have I got that wrong? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
geared Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 It's trying to pander to both sides and still come out with a decent deal. On the one hand you've got the backbenchers, the hardliners and the closet UKIP members who hate the EU and hate all the immigration and stuff. They've been promised a referendum for ages so it's about time they were shut up. On the other hand you've got everyone else, who knows we're better off in the EU and don't really want to leave. If the government can use the referendum and threat of leaving the EU to negotiate us a better deal with the EU then thats cool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 (edited) If you read the actual Tory policy I think that it says we'd renegotiate before any referendum... I know what the media said but as usual I think it was just headlines... sorry it's from Wiki but "Following the 2015 general election, the re-elected Prime Minister David Cameron reiterated a Conservative Party manifesto commitment to hold an 'in-out' referendum on Britain's membership of the European Union by the end of 2017 following renegotiations with EU leaders" my bold http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proposed_referendum_on_United_Kingdom_membership_of_the_European_Union Edited June 8, 2015 by truman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted June 8, 2015 Author Share Posted June 8, 2015 we'd renegotiate before any referendum..... That was Labour policy too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 That was Labour policy too Did they offer e referendum? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berberis Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Before the election we had pro EU parties having the policy of renegotiate, but stay in; it now seems that the Conservative have that policy too. Very disingenuous. Or have I got that wrong? Well the Conservative manifesto had these pledges: Hold an "in-out" referendum on Britain’s renegotiated EU membership by 2017 Protect the UK economy from further integration of the Eurozone. Expand the Single Market Scrap Human Rights Act and replace with a British Bill of Rights Resist EU attempts to restrict legitimate financial services activities I certainly knew the Tory's wanted to renegotiate the UK's membership and will campaign for remaining in the EU come the referendum. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted June 8, 2015 Author Share Posted June 8, 2015 Did they offer e referendum? It is there policy now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Berberis Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 Did they offer e referendum? No, they actively opposed one without future transfers of powers. Their main pledges were: Legislate for a “lock” that guarantees no transfer of powers from Britain to the EU without an in/out referendum. Return Britain to a "leadership role" in a reformed Europe Reform the Common Agricultural Policy Secure reforms to immigration and welfare rules Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
truman Posted June 8, 2015 Share Posted June 8, 2015 It is there policy now A bit late isn't it? I think that ship has sailed for now.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
El Cid Posted June 8, 2015 Author Share Posted June 8, 2015 A bit late isn't it? I think that ship has sailed for now.. My local MP got elected on being anti-EU, as did many Conservatives, but they always failed to say how they would vote. It seems that Cameron is now telling his MPs that they must vote to stay in; they do not know what concessions they will get, or at least they havnt told us yet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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