mikeyproduct Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 In a letter to tomorrow's Observer, Julie Dore along with the leader of Newcastle council and the Mayor of Liverpool have issued a startling warning that cuts will directly contribute to the "breakup of civil society", rising crime and civil unrest in northern cities.  http://www.sheffieldpolitics.com/news/2012/12/29/deeper-cuts-will-cause-civil-unrest-says-dore  It's all pretty apocalyptic stuff. Verging on Walking Dead territory. So what do we reckon? Cuts to cause zombie apocalypse? Or will it pass us by like the Tottenham riots did? Are we all just too lazy and downtrodden these days to bother? Anyone got any fight left? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
andyofborg Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 you only have to read half the posts on here to know that it has started already Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fivetide Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Theresa May's probably hoping for a bit of unrest - it'd give her the excuse to degrade civil liberties and privatise the police some more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happ Hazzard Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Whose fault is it that so many people have come to regard receiving government money as their "right"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fivetide Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Whose fault is it that so many people have come to regard receiving government money as their "right"? Â It's not so much receiving government money (what a strange phrase) as ensuring there's enough of the national wealth available to all parts of society. Which sounds pretty reasonable to me, considering the wealthy only get wealthy by taking wealth out of society and not putting it back in. Â If there was greater taxation of the wealthy and the corporations, the government would have more money to invest in things such as infrastructure, health and care provision, education, policing, defence, environmental protection - all of which would lead to more jobs - and many fewer welfare recipients. Â Give the unemployed a chance of decent employment before punishing them for being unemployed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ricgem2002 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Whose fault is it that so many people have come to regard receiving government money as their "right"? erm the governments fault :hihi: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Happ Hazzard Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Labour's fault. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Funky_Gibbon Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Whose fault is it that so many people have come to regard receiving government money as their "right"? Â Whoever invented taxation? We're not paying homage to our feudal lords, we get taxed to pay for services. Â What you are doing is confusing services provided by local government (bin collection, schools, safeguarding of vulnerable children and adults to name but a few) with an Iain Duncan Smith/Daily Mail stereotype of anyone who claims benefits. Â And anyone who qualifies for a benefit does have a right to them whether you approve or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dawny1970 Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Whose fault is it that so many people have come to regard receiving government money as their "right"? Â The goverment has no money, its our money that they collect and respend so your origional argument is fatally flawed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shao Posted December 30, 2012 Share Posted December 30, 2012 Its not always "our money", there are various income streams for nations and its not always the citizen. The fact is the income is insufficient because people do have a large sense of entitlement in labour areas and maybe others too. Â The country is borderline bankrupt. There is no money and a large part of that is a public sector that is far too large and far too inefficient. Â 1.4 Trillion Debt projected - this is not really a choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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