Sheffielders Back NEXT store

[Penistone999 10]

Other cities successfully manage to have big out of town shopping centres and still have thriving city centres. Manchester and Leeds are both good shopping destinations with great city centres, yet both have out of town malls, so what does this say about Sheffield? I think it says more about our council and their inability to manage and successfully achieve both and demonstrates a lack of vision by our council.

 

The planning refusal for NEXT and IKEA clearly prove that sheffield council does not like competition for the city centre, even though the city centre is dead and buried. SCC clearly wants to run a cartel where it wont allow any stores to open within a certain radius of the city centre.

[tbtc 10]

The planning refusal for NEXT and IKEA clearly prove that sheffield council does not like competition for the city centre, even though the city centre is dead and buried. SCC clearly wants to run a cartel where it wont allow any stores to open within a certain radius of the city centre

 

You mean like the Tesco on Saville Street? Or the Sainsburys at the old Bakery site at Herries Road/ Leppings Lane? Or the redevelopment of Kilner Way Retail Park? Or the new stores near Crystal Peaks?

 

When SCC allow things like the Tesco at Broomhill they are criticised for not standing up to big business. When they turn things down (like NEXT) they are criticised for having an anti-business agenda. Which is it?

[wednesday1 10]

You mean like the Tesco on Saville Street? Or the Sainsburys at the old Bakery site at Herries Road/ Leppings Lane? Or the redevelopment of Kilner Way Retail Park? Or the new stores near Crystal Peaks?

 

When SCC allow things like the Tesco at Broomhill they are criticised for not standing up to big business. When they turn things down (like NEXT) they are criticised for having an anti-business agenda. Which is it?

 

 

 

They will never win with all the bitter Lib Dem Tories who use every opportunity to attack them, thank God they more of them are being vanquished from the Town Hall at every election!

 

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Oh dear....

 

You are one of the ones who harp on about cuts and lack of jobs - Next would bring 125 jobs. And guess what, they would get paid at least the minimum wage (not chicken feed).

 

When will some people get the message - we are not a manufacturing country anymore! Firms go to Germany and China now for this - because it's cheaper and the staff are more likely to get on with the work and less likely to strike.

 

The Unions pretty much killed manufacturing in this country.

 

 

 

 

WOW! not the minimu wage!!!

 

Your second comment about the unions killing manufacturing is utter claptrap.

 

Thatchers policies wiped out most of our industrial base between 1980 and 1985. FACT.

[smiggs 10]

When SCC allow things like the Tesco at Broomhill they are criticised for not standing up to big business. When they turn things down (like NEXT) they are criticised for having an anti-business agenda. Which is it?

 

Both there are plenty of supermarkets, independent food shops, and markets in Sheffield but there aren't that many home improvement and furniture shops. Additionally people can have different criticisms of the council at different times, the people of Sheffield don't speak with one coherent voice we're not in North Korea.

[frededwards 10]

As far as I can tell he neither agrees nor disagrees but simply explains why decisions were made.

 

 

Oh, come off it!

 

He is to SCC what "Comical Ali" was to Saddam Hussein.

[Penistone999 10]

You mean like the Tesco on Saville Street? Or the Sainsburys at the old Bakery site at Herries Road/ Leppings Lane? Or the redevelopment of Kilner Way Retail Park? Or the new stores near Crystal Peaks?

 

When SCC allow things like the Tesco at Broomhill they are criticised for not standing up to big business. When they turn things down (like NEXT) they are criticised for having an anti-business agenda. Which is it?

 

How many big supermarkets are there in the city centre. ? The council dont want to attract big supermarkets to the moor or the Tombstone project. So they arnt going to knock back supermarkets from opening up within a few miles of the city centre, like the new Tesco on the Wicker. What the council has done with its knocking back of NEXT and IKEA is basically say that they arnt welcome in sheffield unless it is in their cherished city centre.

[tbtc 10]

How many big supermarkets are there in the city centre. ? The council dont want to attract big supermarkets to the moor or the Tombstone project. So they arnt going to knock back supermarkets from opening up within a few miles of the city centre, like the new Tesco on the Wicker. What the council has done with its knocking back of NEXT and IKEA is basically say that they arnt welcome in sheffield unless it is in their cherished city centre.

 

In recent years we've seen a few new Sainsburys in the city centre (Arundel Gate, Division Street), we've seen Aldi opening a stone's throw from the Moor, we are also seeing new supermarkets outside the city centre (Sainsburys at Clay Wheels Lane, ASDA at Parson Cross etc). We're also seeing the old Bingo place off Langsett Road being converted to Aldi/ Home Bargains etc, we are seeing Kilner Way being redeveloped too.

 

So I don't get where the "Sheffield City Council don't want big business, they obviously don't want the rates" argument comes from.

 

Both there are plenty of supermarkets, independent food shops, and markets in Sheffield but there aren't that many home improvement and furniture shops

 

There are a fair few places that sell furniture and home improvements in Sheffield - from Pondsfords to Homebase to Argos, depending on where you are on the "cost" scale.

[andygardener 10]

In recent years we've seen a few new Sainsburys in the city centre (Arundel Gate, Division Street), we've seen Aldi opening a stone's throw from the Moor, we are also seeing new supermarkets outside the city centre (Sainsburys at Clay Wheels Lane, ASDA at Parson Cross etc). We're also seeing the old Bingo place off Langsett Road being converted to Aldi/ Home Bargains etc, we are seeing Kilner Way being redeveloped too.

 

So I don't get where the "Sheffield City Council don't want big business, they obviously don't want the rates" argument comes from.

 

 

 

There are a fair few places that sell furniture and home improvements in Sheffield - from Pondsfords to Homebase to Argos, depending on where you are on the "cost" scale.

 

The council seem to bend over backwards to allow more and more supermarkets, both the large ones and the dozens of Sainsburys local and Tesco metro branches that have sprung up all over the city.

 

Which is fine but it doesn't really create jobs, it just moves them about, generally from small businesses to supermarkets. Nobody is going to travel from Wakefield to Parsons Cross to buy some beans, they would have done so to come to Ikea and Next Home. The council seem to think they can bully retailers into city centre or nothing, they will not succeed and are throwing away jobs in their muddleheaded take it or leave it approach.

[Good mood 10]

Anyway ,back to the thread topic, i think the council have shot themselves in the foot over the NEXT planning refusal, and have shown their complete lack of ambition for the future of the city ,and their total obsession with the Sevenstone farce. The massive public support for the Next home and Garden store is concrete proof that the council have got it totally wrong yet again.

 

You're basically right here; its not that people are crying out specifically for this Next store, just dying to get their hands on the goods within, its the principle of it, it just seems outrageous that the council, for no good reason it seems, have put the kibosh on a big company wanting to create jobs in Sheffield.

[Penistone999 10]

You're basically right here; its not that people are crying out specifically for this Next store, just dying to get their hands on the goods within, its the principle of it, it just seems outrageous that the council, for no good reason it seems, have put the kibosh on a big company wanting to create jobs in Sheffield.

 

What the council are doing is saying to big , flagship companies is , you can come and open your store in sheffield ,BUT only if you open it in our dream shopping centre which may nere be built. The large retailers arnt daft ,they know all about the severnstone joke ,and they wont go near it with a bargepole ,as they arnt going to commit to something which may never happen , and association with Severnstone will bring them negative publicity.