Britain stays out of EU financial crisis deal

[ANGELFIRE1 10]

Thats Mister Blair if you dont mind - our international peace envoy who worked tirelessly trooping around europe knocking on parliamentary doors like a desperate jehovas witness to legalise his peace mission in Iraq.

 

Blair owed europe.

 

 

Is that the same Mr Bliar who should be arrested for crimes against humanity. It would also give Mrs Bliar a job defending him, instead of wasting time accepting as many freebies as possible.

 

Well done Cameroon for making a start of lifting the German Jackboot and the Garlicy hands of the French off the neck of GREAT Britain.

 

Regards

 

Angel.

Edited December 9, 2011 by ANGELFIRE1

[I1L2T3 10]

I fail to see what else the PM could have done, if he signed up for the treaty change wouldn't we have to have a referendum to ratify the treaty? A referendum that would have been lost, and scuppering the treaty?

 

There isn't anything else he could have done. It doesn't suit us.

[mossdog 10]

VAT Man and the Boy Blunder are going to bring hardship and doom to the entire UK

There you go again!.......can't help it can you.Just shows how much you really know about the situation.

I sometimes think you must be smoking something!

[ampersand 10]

I fail to see what else the PM could have done, if he signed up for the treaty change wouldn't we have to have a referendum to ratify the treaty? A referendum that would have been lost, and scuppering the treaty?

 

Absolutely right - he couldn't have done anything else to retain the support of a large proportion of his party, and if he had done anything else he would struggle to get it through Parliament without a referendum which would almost certainly reject it - and how on earth would he have gone into a referendum proposing something that the majority of his party didn't support

[mj.scuba 10]

How can problems fundamentally caused by integration, be solved by further integration?

[JFKvsNixon 11]

There isn't anything else he could have done. It doesn't suit us.

 

I agree, it's going to take some very smart diplomacy to stop France and Germany dominating Europe now.

[Stoatwobbler 10]

How can problems fundamentally caused by integration, be solved by further integration?

 

We haven't even got as far as the whole "fiscal union" idea yet!

Edited December 9, 2011 by Stoatwobbler
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[Kidorry 189]

I am always a bit wary when France and Germany want us to do something, because in the past we have always had to fork out £££££ to help prop up their ideas, which almost every time are of benefit to other nations, rather than the U.K.

[Bobgok23 10]

Noway our PM was going to let his mates down in the city.

[Stoatwobbler 10]

Noway our PM was going to let his mates down in the city.

 

Considering how skewed our economy is towards financial services a lot of the proposals were never going to be acceptable to the British government. And then there's the question about how Cameron could have got a deal through parliament, or fought a referendum for such a treaty.

[Stormy 10]

Couple of things: are those of you who are clamouring for the Tobin Tax aware that the money wouldn't have gone towards Schools, Hospitals, Deficit reduction etc? It was earmarked for recapitalising French and German banks again. Much like the severe austerity measures in Greece, Ireland, Portugal and soon to be Italy are not to help the citizens of those countries, but to protect the interest of the banks who have lent them money. The Tobin Tax would take a disproportionate amount of money out of the UK, personally I rather like our financial sector paying tax in this country.

 

Also a quick pedant mode note: Cameron hasn't vetoed anything. He has exercised the UKs right to opt-out of protocol and treaty change. He hasn't stopped anything.

Edited December 9, 2011 by Stormy

[Jonny5 10]

In an ideal world I think we should be looking to have stronger bonds with Europe and everyone else for that matter but its just not possible with the way Europe has been run for the last 30 years.

 

Under the circumstances he had no choice.

 

Good to see the Socialist Worker line from Mecky. Again. How about forming your own opinion once in while eh?