Strike Action - Public Service - 30th November

[SanjC]

The Observer, Sunday 17 October 2010

 

More than a quarter of a million people will get tax relief on their pension contributions at the rate of 50% despite changes announced by the government this week to cut the cost of this relief to the exchequer.

 

The coalition government announced on Thursday that it would scrap the previous government's plan to taper tax relief to 20% for those earning £150,000 or more from April next year (a complicated interim arrangement has been in place to stop investors benefiting from the highest rate of tax relief in the meantime).

 

Although the new government is introducing new limits to the amount that individuals can save on an annual and lifetime basis, the reversal of policy means that 274,000 highest-rate taxpayers will now receive 50% on their contributions – that is £1 from the government for every pound they invest.............read more http://www.guardian.co.uk/money/2010/oct/17/high-earners-hit-jackpot-pension-tax-rethink

Edited November 29, 2011 by SanjC
Added date of article.

[Jim Graham]

Not sure about about that, Marxism did not say people should do one thing or the other, it outlined possibilities that may occur if certain routes were followed.

 

 

 

What did Marx say about the possible outcome of anarchic unions hell bent on following a route to economic ruination?

 

Marxists are that peculiar brand of socialists who want to overthrow state control and then impose their own instead.

 

Socialism is a broad philosophy with some ideas aimed at doing good and some that are pure evil. It seems to me that the particular strain of Socialism preached by Labour and the Unions is always the latter. You only have to look where we are after 13 years of their brand of Socialism to see that as clear as day. The same goes for Sheffield after nearly a century. I can remember the 70s and 80s well enough to know that Socialists were nothing but evil then as well. It has been more than 60 years since Labour were a force for good.

[xenia]

Interesting contribution.

 

I was in the NUM during the miners strike, I picketed I supported my fellow members despite having serious doubts about the motives of Scargill and others at the top of the union. Completely by accident I uncovered a major fiddle being perpetrated on the members by branch officials at Wath, Cortonwood and Manvers collieries. I reported this to the HQ within four hours all records were destroyed.

 

In the same week Scargill was caught talking to Gaddafis people in Paris. It was also revealed that Scargill was talking to the Soviets.

 

I look at todays union leaders and see there are some who conscientously seek to represent their members. BUT there are others who are seking to overthrow the elected government and install an ultra left wing administration that they will control.

 

These are the ones that have encouraged and indeed orchestrated this strike. Like we were in 1984/5 the strikers are being used as pawns. The left know that this governments policies are broadly the same as the LABOUR party would have to bring in if they were still in power. Because LABOUR lost the election the ultras are taking the opportunity and seeking to divide the nation.

 

Those of you who are union members and do not strike are not blacklegs, you are patriots.

 

There are those people who acknowledge their commitment :- They be called

human beings .

 

There are those that suck the life blood out of their workmates :- They are called free - loaders or parasites .

 

Then there is the lowest - A reactionary , a blackleg :-They are the ones that can crawl under a snakes belly .

 

I'm not pointing any fingers. I suspect even the lowly are capable of seeing

their own reflection...Though may be not honest enough with themselves .

[xenia]

I remain in awe of Jim Graham, Jim your arguements are unassailable. I learn something every time I read them. Keep up the good work.

[harvey19]

Why not cap public sector pensions at the top end and increase those at the lower end ?

By increasing the lower end it would save in benefit payments.

[Lab-rat]

So you are in favour of a result of an election only being valid if it gained over 50% of eligible votes are you?

 

I'm in favour of both votes in parliament & to do with unions being made yeah or neigh. No one should be allowed to abstain or they either shouldn't be in parliament or in a union....that's the whole point that you should be aware & have an opinion IMPO.

[Guest]

Marxism is one view of Socialism

 

Marxists believe the state is an oppressive weapon used to uphold economic inequality.

 

No it isn't. They are completely different political doctrines. They have similarities but major differences.

[Bassman62]

What did Marx say about the possible outcome of anarchic unions hell bent on following a route to economic ruination?

 

Marxists are that peculiar brand of socialists who want to overthrow state control and then impose their own instead.

 

Socialism is a broad philosophy with some ideas aimed at doing good and some that are pure evil. It seems to me that the particular strain of Socialism preached by Labour and the Unions is always the latter. You only have to look where we are after 13 years of their brand of Socialism to see that as clear as day. The same goes for Sheffield after nearly a century. I can remember the 70s and 80s well enough to know that Socialists were nothing but evil then as well. It has been more than 60 years since Labour were a force for good.

 

Can you tell us when we last had a Labour Government in the UK?

It certainly wasn't labour under Tory Bliar and hes closet torys.

[Joe-b-1]

I remain in awe of Jim Graham, Jim your arguements are unassailable. I learn something every time I read them. Keep up the good work.

 

His argument are only unassailable or even believable if you are a blinkered rightwing bigoted individual who is not prepared to, or who is without the intelligence or empathy to consider the arguments of anyone else. There are two sides to every argument if you can see beyond the end of your nose.

[Joe-b-1]

Why not cap public sector pensions at the top end and increase those at the lower end ?

By increasing the lower end it would save in benefit payments.

 

Quite a reasonable idea as long as no money is taken out of the fund to pay the national debt.