Warning: Attacked by shop lifter- beware!

[boyfriday 21]

words fail me sometimes on this forum, I swear an all my years I have never come across a tenth as many total ****wits in real life sheffield as I have on this forum, where do you all live?, seriously!.

 

The guy robs from her, throtles her,threatens to knock her teeth down her throat and people start saying she is breaking the law, and possibly a racist, **** me get a grip.

 

Dont fall for it IanG, he's an inhabitant of Troll City

[rubydazzler 11]

... Sheffield foum is still a great place to be,you just have to know which posts and posters to ignore...

You're very right that people eventually get the measure of which posts and posters to ignore.

 

IanG. Well said. I think most of us are on your wavelength.

 

@ the OP, I'm so glad that nothing worse happened to you. I'm in the same boat as you and, quite frankly, I'd have just let it go. Even seeing them on CCTV I wouldn't actually challenge anyone. It's not worth the risk. Don't lock anyone in with you again though, not because it makes you in the wrong, but because you could be putting yourself in terrible danger.

 

If I suspect something is going on, I just ask them to leave as I have to close the shop for some reason or another and escort them off the premises. Although having said that, it's only happened a couple of times in many years.

[Leah-Lacie 10]

I think I remember OP saying her shop is on 3 floors, thats a huge thing for anyone to tackle alone. Particularly when she sells 'pricey' goods. From previous threads the police really don't seem interested in her problems either. Its not good

[Closet Guy. 10]

You're very right that people eventually get the measure of which posts and posters to ignore.

 

IanG. Well said. I think most of us are on your wavelength.

 

@ the OP, I'm so glad that nothing worse happened to you. I'm in the same boat as you and, quite frankly, I'd have just let it go. Even seeing them on CCTV I wouldn't actually challenge anyone. It's not worth the risk. Don't lock anyone in with you again though, not because it makes you in the wrong, but because you could be putting yourself in terrible danger.

 

If I suspect something is going on, I just ask them to leave as I have to close the shop for some reason or another and escort them off the premises. Although having said that, it's only happened a couple of times in many years.

Not at all sure why you used the.......

But glad you agree anyhow.

[mj.scuba 10]

Just for the folks that though the OP acted illegally, here is some info regarding citizens arrest in the UK:

 

http://www.inbrief.co.uk/police/citizens-arrest.htm

[BettyBooHoo! 10]

You're also giving quite a specific description of someone who at this stage is only an alleged criminal.

 

The thread should be deleted at once as the accused could well be innocent and now wrongly targeted by vigilantes.

 

You wouldn't by any chance fit the following description would you?

 

Between 5'7 and 6 foot

Black

Long black dreadclocks tied back

Cap on when he came into store

track suit attire

South London accent

 

It's just, that's the only possible reason I could think as to why you would post such a post! Well, other than you been a troll.

 

Hope you're OK bexx140, sounds like quite an ordeal.

[Grandad.Malky 11]

Just for the folks that though the OP acted illegally, here is some info regarding citizens arrest in the UK:

 

http://www.inbrief.co.uk/police/citizens-arrest.htm

 

I would have thought that pretty much covers it all

 

It is necessary because the person in question is either:

 

1. Causing physical injury to themselves or others;

2. Suffering physical injury;

3. Causing damage or loss of property; or

4. Escaping before a police constable can take responsibility of them.

[fake 10]

I would have thought that pretty much covers it all

 

You left out some important bits;

 

"Just what constitutes ‘reasonable suspicion’ and ‘reasonable force’ are questions that can take a great deal of discussion in court and to be aware of these provisions at the time of making an arrest is extremely hard to do. Although the courts do look favourably upon people with a keen sense of public spirit and aim to uphold their rights, it is possible for a person to be sued for unlawful arrest or face civil litigation if a citizen’s arrest goes wrong."

 

One of the reasons the police advise against it and the other is that it can also lead to the person carrying out the arrest being harmed.

Edited May 5, 2011 by fake

[Noob 10]

Black man only trying to earn a wage. Hope he comes on and gives his side of the story.

[alchresearch 215]

Just to put some perspective to the "false imprisonment" issue, I'm currently very closely aware of a case where a trespasser (a photographer) was locked in a secure room by a security guard in an abandoned building, while he called the police.

 

The guard was arrested and charged with false imprisonment.

[Leah-Lacie 10]

Black man only trying to earn a wage. Hope he comes on and gives his side of the story.

 

Oh yes, I'm sure he would also get slated for not trying to provide for his family /sarcasm

[sophiec1979 10]

I think I remember OP saying her shop is on 3 floors, thats a huge thing for anyone to tackle alone. Particularly when she sells 'pricey' goods. From previous threads the police really don't seem interested in her problems either. Its not good

 

the OP has also said that she doesnt phone the police anymore in a previous post.

http://www.sheffieldforum.co.uk/showpost.php?p=7600773&postcount=8

 

i have to defend the police here, if you dont tell them whats going on, they dont know, they are not psychic and can never help you if you dont ask for it.

 

without evidence of the offence, they cannot press charges- you have to take some ownership and help protect your business by improving security. by installing cctv you can help provide evidence to them which will see the offender arrested at the minimum. its also there as a deterrant to the less hardened chancers....show the police this!!!

 

i have total sympathy for you being targeted and suffering such an ordeal, and cannot condone what you have suffered at the hands of these theives...but they talk and the grapevine will be saying you are a soft touch and easy pickings.

 

i urge you to contact the police every time, get a crime prevention officer in to asses the business premises, see if you can get signed up to the CRAC system in your area, invest in additional cctv, consider additional staff whenever possible.

 

i really do hope you can find a resolution, but if i was in your shoes i would be doing everything i have suggested and protecting my business.

 

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Edited May 5, 2011 by sophiec1979