retep Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 That is not the history of Sheffield Markets, it is the recent history.The first markets where on the site over a thousand years ago. See the history guide to Sheffield by David Vine page 34 which tells us that people came to market at the confluence of the Sheaf and the Don [Caslegate] in the eleventh century. He goes on to say that the market survives to this day.Not for much longer if these mad planners get there way,to them history means bugger all. Or here, Sheffield has hosted markets for more than 700 years and they are as important now as they were when they began. http://www.sheffield.gov.uk/business-economy/markets/history-and-visits/history-of-the-markets-in-sheffield Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
damo Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 The moor is busier than Castle Gate. No way. Yes it is. Castlegate may seem busier but that's due to it being an interchange etc the moor is far busier in terms of customers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greybeard Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 That is not the history of Sheffield Markets, it is the recent history.The first markets where on the site over a thousand years ago. See the history guide to Sheffield by David Vine page 34 which tells us that people came to market at the confluence of the Sheaf and the Don [Caslegate] in the eleventh century. He goes on to say that the market survives to this day.Not for much longer if these mad planners get there way,to them history means bugger all. You mean David Fine ? - I have the book somewhere, but in any case the earliest record of a market in Sheffield is in the Furnival charter of 1279. Speculation that a market was held here before that time is perfectly reasonable but its location can only be conjecture. I see mickw has enlightened you about the garden wall Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mickw Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 But you are dead right on one thing peoples opinions are what a forum is about and long may it remain so. Amen to that brother. But the castle is still more important than a market that be held elsewhere, like the Moor! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuttsie Posted January 12, 2011 Author Share Posted January 12, 2011 You mean David Fine ? - I have the book somewhere, but in any case the earliest record of a market in Sheffield is in the Furnival charter of 1279. Speculation that a market was held here before that time is perfectly reasonable but its location can only be conjecture. I see mickw has enlightened you about the garden wall hi there buddy. You sound like a mate of mine , anyway your right its Fine sorry. According to Fine the Market was there before 1279 but if not its still been in the area a bloody long time and in my opinion it will be a mistake to move away from the historical Market area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 The Story Of The Englsh Towns-Sheffield William de Lovetot His first connection with Sheffield seems to have been as tenant--tenant to a tenant, perhaps- but by the beginning of twelfth century he was virtual owner of Sheffield and all the surrounding manors, and before 1112 he had built some sort of castle in Sheffield, and had either founded the parish church or had helped to restore and put on a better footing a previous one that had existed on the same site from an earlier period. The works of this early proprietor were considerable. He built a castle however primitive, and made a moat around it- an easy matter , considering the abundance of water in the numerous streams. He made a mill and a bridge ; he founded a hospital and set up a market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cuttsie Posted January 12, 2011 Author Share Posted January 12, 2011 The Story Of The Englsh Towns-Sheffield William de Lovetot His first connection with Sheffield seems to have been as tenant--tenant to a tenant, perhaps- but by the beginning of twelfth century he was virtual owner of Sheffield and all the surrounding manors, and before 1112 he had built some sort of castle in Sheffield, and had either founded the parish church or had helped to restore and put on a better footing a previous one that had existed on the same site from an earlier period. The works of this early proprietor were considerable. He built a castle however primitive, and made a moat around it- an easy matter , considering the abundance of water in the numerous streams. He made a mill and a bridge ; he founded a hospital and set up a market. Cheers for this it falls in with David Fines book. As a matter of interest is there any Lovetot road or street in the area. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
retep Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Cheers for this it falls in with David Fines book. As a matter of interest is there any Lovetot road or street in the area. Can't say as i've come across one, but there is Love St. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ThatYank Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Castle Market is in very poor condition, it should be knocked down and re-developed in the same relative location, since it is right in the heart of the center city. and yes there should be access to the castle remains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greybeard Posted January 12, 2011 Share Posted January 12, 2011 Can't say as i've come across one, but there is Love St. There was Truelove's Gutter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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