beer   10 #1 Posted April 1, 2009 Restrictive covenants are destroying our pubs.  Pub companies who charge exorbitant rents are finding some pubs simply cannot be let out. Despite the fact that people want to buy these pubs, some of which might be the last pub in a village, they are prevented from doing so.  Large numbers of these failed pubs are being sold by the pubcos with restrictive covenants preventive their use for sale of alcohol. As a result perfectly viable pubs are forced to close and are sold for other uses.  Surely this should be stopped. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
splodgeyAl   10 #2 Posted April 1, 2009 The brewing industry seems to be very keen to destroy its own market. IMO breweries should *not* be allowed to own pubs Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
scottf   21 #3 Posted April 1, 2009 I agree- one of the main problems with the pub industries are the brewers themselves!! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Strix   11 #4 Posted April 1, 2009 there should be measures in place to protect the hubs of our communities  the damage which can be done by taking vital meeting places away from a community is immeasurable Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
GordonBennet   10 #5 Posted April 1, 2009 It's none of our business what a private company chooses to do with its assets. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Strix   11 #6 Posted April 1, 2009 it is when it's been the village pub for 400 years, and your whole family have been celebrating their births and deaths there for that time Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
GordonBennet   10 #7 Posted April 1, 2009 it is when it's been the village pub for 400 years, and your whole family have been celebrating their births and deaths there for that time  Ah but how often do you actually go in it? Most people who protest at a pub closure probably only go 2 or 3 times a year and would sooner buy a crate of Stella from Tesco and get drunk at home. As no company would be mad enough to shut down a pub that's busy and making money, the only way to keep it open is to use it! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
splodgeyAl   10 #8 Posted April 1, 2009 (edited) It's none of our business what a private company chooses to do with its assets.  Most of the larger breweries are listed on some sort of stock exchange, so even with taking the "business is more important than people" approach, you could buy a share, go to the AGM and ask them to have some social responsibility. On the other hand, living in an apparently-free country, we have the right to protest - whether that means writing to the company in question, marching around their head office, or discussing it in an open forum - these are all options available to us Edited April 1, 2009 by splodgeyAl Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
splodgeyAl   10 #9 Posted April 1, 2009 (edited) Ah but how often do you actually go in it? Most people who protest at a pub closure probably only go 2 or 3 times a year and would sooner buy a crate of Stella from Tesco and get drunk at home. As no company would be mad enough to shut down a pub that's busy and making money, the only way to keep it open is to use it!  Do you work in a pub? The tied pubs that I've worked in, every time they managed to up their sales, the brewery would up the rent, leaving the landlord no better off financially, but with considerably greater workload.  Not the actions of a sustainable industry, IMO Edited April 1, 2009 by splodgeyAl spellin' Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
JohnnyMathis   10 #10 Posted April 1, 2009 This is what's happened in Bamford.  The Derwent's unlikely to open again, and the Anglers is rubbish and needs a fortune spending on it.  As you say, these pubs are often the centre of the community and I believe village life suffers as a result of them closing. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
alchresearch   215 #11 Posted April 1, 2009 £4 a pint is what's killing off the pubs.  Not all chains are bad. Robinsons and Jennings are two family brewers with strings of very successful pubs and happy managers. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
splodgeyAl   10 #12 Posted April 1, 2009 £4 a pint is what's killing off the pubs. Not all chains are bad. Robinsons and Jennings are two family brewers with strings of very successful pubs and happy managers.  The crazy price of beer in many pubs is often caused by the brewery charging the pubs more per pint than supermarkets charge retail Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...