nick2 Â Â 10 #373 Posted December 23, 2005 Originally posted by TimmyR As for artificial means, by the very nature of the word artificial it is unnatural. Â Agreed, turkey basters shouldn't be part of the baby-making process. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
TimmyR   10 #374 Posted December 23, 2005 Originally posted by melthebell as were the worst form of life on this planet (and now in space) hating, killing, slaughtering, raping, destroying, stealing just for our own selfish wants  The thing is, we invented all these terms. The concept of "rape" is created because we define a social structure where consent is required for sex. Male animals screw whatever the hell they like, if they are dominant - the "alpha" male. Theft - we defined the concept of ownership in the first place. Slaughtering? Animals kill the children of their own species so that there own genes can dominate.  Its just we've invented more interesting ways of doing all these things. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Kavita   10 #375 Posted December 23, 2005 Marriage isnt between a man and women who love each other. It's just between two lovers. You cannot put a label on marriage. It is what it is. Why should it bother someone if two more people in the world are made happy through marriage? Why should they destroy it by thinking its wrong? They shouldn't. Its just love. Nothing is wrong with it. Full stop. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
intooblivion   10 #376 Posted December 23, 2005 Originally posted by nick2 Agreed, turkey basters shouldn't be part of the baby-making process.  Necessary for some couples who want to have babies tho. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
TimmyR Â Â 10 #377 Posted December 23, 2005 Originally posted by intooblivion Necessary for some couples who want to have babies tho. Â And so we return to the debate. Its ok for couples who can't have babies to have babies by "unnatural" means, but not ok for gay people to have relationships because it is "unnatural"?? Â If nature is to take its course the aforementioned couple should not be able to have babies but the homosexuals can do what they like! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
kirky   10 #378 Posted December 23, 2005 but young kids don't need to be in an envioroment where "daddy and daddy" take the choclate choo choo up bornville boulyvard.    :hihi: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
TimmyR Â Â 10 #379 Posted December 23, 2005 Originally posted by kirky but young kids don't need to be in an envioroment where "daddy and daddy" take the choclate choo choo up bornville boulyvard. Â Â Â Â :hihi: Â Â As a child I wasn't aware of my parents doing anything of a sexual nature at all, so why should it matter what a gay couple do??? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
intooblivion   10 #380 Posted December 23, 2005 Originally posted by TimmyR And so we return to the debate. Its ok for couples who can't have babies to have babies by "unnatural" means, but not ok for gay people to have relationships because it is "unnatural"??  If nature is to take its course the aforementioned couple should not be able to have babies but the homosexuals can do what they like!  I think people should do what they want. There are far too many tragedies and unhappy occurances in this life so if someone is doing something that makes them happy and isn't hurting anyone else why on earth stop because of some narrow minded people....  Social conditioning is not necessary and we should strip it away. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Preacher Man   10 #381 Posted December 23, 2005 To be fair, Timmy is advocating the rite of gay couples to adopt kids. That pretty much flies in the face of social conditioning... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
intooblivion   10 #382 Posted December 23, 2005 Originally posted by Preacher Man To be fair, Timmy is advocating the rite of gay couples to adopt kids. That pretty much flies in the face of social conditioning...  Yes I know, I wasn't going against what timmy said I was agreeing with him. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Preacher Man   10 #383 Posted December 23, 2005 Originally posted by intooblivion Yes I know, I wasn't going against what timmy said I was agreeing with him.  err me too:rolleyes: :blush: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Arfer Mo   10 #384 Posted March 24, 2007 Do they have the same second name ? If so who? Tim It's a matter of [give and take]following that the women [gives], and the man[ takes as] regards sex ,the answer is pretty obvious, no offence intended. Arthur. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...