Are We A Christian Country Now?

[AndrewC 308]

16 hours ago, Baron99 said:

The last census results. 

 

Across England and Wales, 46% of people identified as being Christian.

And I bet you half of those are just saying they're Christian as a default answer, out of habit from childhood, despite the fact they haven't practised their religion in any meaningful way in years.

 

15 hours ago, Axe said:

the Magna Carta honoured. 

Did she die in vain? 😞

[Organgrinder 1,946]

59 minutes ago, Axe said:

You rightly pointed out in post #31 that legal immigration numbers are too high which are a strain on resources and are now suggesting better legal channels of applications take place in France.  More legal channels would just increase the numbers of immigration further.

 

Regarding the Rwanda plan the money has already been spent so it makes sense to implement the plan to establish whether it is a successful deterrent.  For it to be a successful deterrent the legal loopholes need to be stopped and it has to be made perfectly clear to those thinking about making an illegal channel crossing that they will end up in Rwanda. 

You have now quoted the very argument that the Tories have followed,  which has got them into the mess they are in now,

There is NO REASON why,  having legal channels to apply for asylum in France would increase the numbers any more.

 

We need proper policies for asylum and  immigration and to ensure they work,  we need national identity cards so that NO ONE can live in this country unknown.

If would be asylum seekers applied in Calais or Paris and were turned down,  they would have no reason to smuggle themselves over the channel,  knowing that they would NOT be allowed to stay

 

I won't even bother discussing the "Rwanda Plan" because it's so obviously not going to work anyway and was just a play for time by the Tories.

 

[Organgrinder 1,946]

1 hour ago, Axe said:

You rightly pointed out in post #31 that legal immigration numbers are too high which are a strain on resources and are now suggesting better legal channels of applications take place in France.  More legal channels would just increase the numbers of immigration further.

 

Regarding the Rwanda plan the money has already been spent so it makes sense to implement the plan to establish whether it is a successful deterrent.  For it to be a successful deterrent the legal loopholes need to be stopped and it has to be made perfectly clear to those thinking about making an illegal channel crossing that they will end up in Rwanda. 

It has already been made perfectly clear,  by the government,   that the vast majority of them  will  NOT end up in Rwanda,  but only a very limited few.

The rest,  we will still have to deal with,  so we should make a start on dealing with them instead of playing games.

[prince al 178]

No need for the Rwanda plan, return the boats back to the French shore.

[Jomie 30]

‘The Surprising Rebirth of Belief in God’ is a series of podcasts by Justin Brierley.  It is very interesting and thought provoking.  It sheds a bright light on the history of our Christian heritage but doesn’t gloss everything over.  Listening to these podcasts has broadened my understanding of Christianity and history. 
 

Despite the historical shortcomings of Christianity, after listening to the podcasts my impression is that we need to embrace and defend our Christian heritage. The fact that people of all different faiths come to the UK and are able to practise freely shows acceptance and tolerance which (as they argue in the podcasts) is underpinned by our Christian culture. That’s not the case in some countries where Christians are persecuted and churches destroyed. One interviewee describes the destruction of a church in the Middle East by radical Islamists. That particular episode was upsetting but there was no condemnation of Islam. 
 

Would recommend these podcasts for enquiring minds of whatever faith. 
 

 

 

 

 

 

[Jomie 30]

No edit button: Would recommend these podcasts for enquiring minds of whatever faith (or none).

[alchresearch 215]

Interesting update and the mention of "fellow Muslims" in the begging for positive feedback