Northern General Parking

[Irene Swaine 1,072]

1 minute ago, PapaLazarou said:

Try the government then, Einstein. These are the current government powers on pavement parking:

 

Powers to tackle pavement parking

A pavement parking prohibition was introduced in London in 1974. Local authorities in England (outside London) can enforce against pavement parking where:

• vehicles are parked in contravention of existing waiting restrictions (for example yellow lines, which also apply to the verge and the pavement)
• a designated prohibition has been implemented through a TRO and prescribed, or authorised, traffic signs and bay markings; or
• the vehicle parked is a ‘heavy commercial vehicle’ with an operating weight of over 7.5 tonnes

 

(Source: UK Government July 2023)

 

Thus - it’s NOT an offence outside London.

 

Its ok to be wrong sometimes you know.

If they can't be done for parking they can still automatically be done for driving on the pavement, as the car had to drive on there to get there. 

[RollingJ 2,047]

5 minutes ago, Irene Swaine said:

If they can't be done for parking they can still automatically be done for driving on the pavement, as the car had to drive on there to get there. 

I think you will find 'driving on' infers constant forward (or reverse) movement.

[Irene Swaine 1,072]

Just now, RollingJ said:

I think you will find 'driving on' infers constant forward (or reverse) movement.

Do you have any documentation to prove this? 

[RollingJ 2,047]

Just now, Irene Swaine said:

Do you have any documentation to prove this? 

Do you have any to disprove it?

[Irene Swaine 1,072]

2 minutes ago, RollingJ said:

Do you have any to disprove it?

Yes 

 

Rule 145

You MUST NOT drive on or over a pavement, footpath or bridleway

 

It is clear cut. There is no mention of a requirement for the driving to be "continuous" to constitute an offence. 

[RollingJ 2,047]

1 minute ago, Irene Swaine said:

Yes 

 

Rule 145

You MUST NOT drive on or over a pavement, footpath or bridleway

 

It is clear cut. There is no mention of a requirement for the driving to be "continuous" to constitute an offence. 

The operative word there is 'drive', which to any logical person means continuous movement - how do people whose driveways are set back from the road get onto them? Easy - they make a short trip over the pavement.

[Irene Swaine 1,072]

8 minutes ago, RollingJ said:

The operative word there is 'drive', which to any logical person means continuous movement - how do people whose driveways are set back from the road get onto them? Easy - they make a short trip over the pavement.

Only if there is a dropped kerb and only to gain lawful access to a private property. That rules out these pavement parkers of the exemption clause. It's illegal whether you like it or not.

[HeHasRisen 3,410]

Are you citing its inclusion in the Highway Code as the fact its illegal?

[Irene Swaine 1,072]

3 minutes ago, HeHasRisen said:

Are you citing its inclusion in the Highway Code as the fact its illegal?

Yes, I am.

[RollingJ 2,047]

2 minutes ago, Irene Swaine said:

Only if there is a dropped kerb and only to gain lawful access to a private property. That rules out these pavement parkers of the exemption clause. It's illegal whether you like it or not.

As has been pointed out numerous times above - it is illegal only in London, or where road marking indicate that you must not park at that point.

[Irene Swaine 1,072]

2 minutes ago, RollingJ said:

As has been pointed out numerous times above - it is illegal only in London, or where road marking indicate that you must not park at that point.

As has been pointed out numerous times above - unless the car has miraculously fallen from the sky ans landed on the pavement, it has driven on it, which is an offence.

[RollingJ 2,047]

@HeHasRisen, and anyone else with the patience - all yours. I can't be bothered trying to convince the unconvinced.