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Given that Christianity is based on the teachings of Jesus Christ, in the New Testament, I think that relying on the Old Testament isn't too useful.

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I think the Methodists are pretty anti-drink.

Not sure if its totally forbidden, but it certainly is on their church premises.

 

Other than that I think its generally accepted in moderation.

 

 

"pretty anti-drink" I'm pretty entirely sure there completely anti-drink!

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My understanding of The Bible is that the Old Testament is to be followed by the Jews, and Christians follow the testament. How the two can contradict each other, yet are bundled together, is something I've never understood. I think of it as giving away a copy of Socialist Worker free with every copy of the Telegraph...

 

Now, what does the New Testament say about alcohol? King Lemuel (often often considered to be the wise King Solomon) quotes his mother as saying:

 

It is not for kings, O Lemuel, it is not for kings to drink wine; nor for princes strong drink:

Lest they drink, and forget the law, and pervert the judgment of any of the afflicted.

Give strong drink unto him that is ready to perish, and wine unto those that be of heavy hearts.

Let him drink, and forget his poverty, and remember his misery no more.

 

Proverbs 31:4-7 (King James Version)

 

So strong drink affects your judgement and is only for the dying, the depressed and the destitute...

 

Other New Testament verses warning against consuming alcohol in excess (if not alcohol per se) include:

 

Be not among winebibbers; among riotous eaters of flesh

 

Proverbs 23:30 (King James Version)

 

I believe that certain bible interpretations take winebibbers to mean those who drink too much, while others take it to mean drinking in general.

 

Woe unto them that rise up early in the morning, that they may follow strong drink; that continue until night, till wine inflame them!

 

Isaiah 5:11-14 (King James Version)

 

I am aware that it is mentioned in the bible that Jesus turned water into wine, but I'm highly sceptical that God would permit something as destructive to society as alcohol to be freely consumed.

 

Some interpretations I've read of such verses imply that the wine mentioned in the New Testament was grape juice rather than fermented, alcoholic beverage.

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Can't be bothered readin it to see if anyone's pointed this BLATENTLY obvious fact out...... Err drinkin wine for the blood of Christ????? You plank!:hihi: :hihi: :loopy:

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Given that Christianity is based on the teachings of Jesus Christ, in the New Testament, I think that relying on the Old Testament isn't too useful.

That's not really true, most variants of Christianity that I’m aware of pick and choose bits to follow and ignore from both the old and new testaments. If this wasn’t the case I there would be no creationists.

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"pretty anti-drink" I'm pretty entirely sure there completely anti-drink!

 

 

knowing the methodists i know, including the ministers...

 

they are not completely anti-drink...

 

a glass of wine with dinner is perfectly acceptable in the modern methodist church as is the odd beer etc, jsut within reason and not to excess

 

they still do not have alcohol on the premises though

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Aye I know a sweet girl from the church on the dual carraigeway just off the university roundabout... they go for a swift half after church n that...

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a glass of wine

 

What's the point of that... :confused::hihi:

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That's not really true, most variants of Christianity that I’m aware of pick and choose bits to follow and ignore from both the old and new testaments. If this wasn’t the case I there would be no creationists.

 

 

Yes, what with female priests, and now gay priests, it seems the original teachings have been rewritten in order to appeal to secular modernists.

 

I've often thought about joining the Landover Baptist ministry, who take the KJV1611 edition to be the unchanged and literal word of God.

 

Get your wallet out though - the ministry has a fleet of aircraft to maintain ;)

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Yes, what with female priests, and now gay priests, it seems the original teachings have been rewritten in order to appeal to secular modernists.

This isn't a new thing it's been a constant since Christianity first began, just how many Christians have ever paid any attention to Jesus’ comments about rich men camels and needles for example?

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OK I'll be back at 11!!!!

See you all later.............:wave:

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