SnailyBoy Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 So what you're say is, we should discriminate to beat discrimination? If i need a brain surgeon, i want the best person for the job, not someone who got their because of their skin colour or the circumstances in to which they were born.  No, I'm asking why do you think the measures were put in place? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetSaw Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 No, I'm asking why do you think the measures were put in place? Â I'm well aware of why... but that was a while ago. In the modern day there are laws against discrimination. So, why are people from different backgrounds given extra consideration if there are laws in place to combat discrimination? My question to you: Â If the benchmark for a surgeon to pass their exams is 90% and all who apply don't meet that benchmark, would you be happy receiving an operation from someone who couldn't meet that benchmark purely because of their background? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnailyBoy Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 I'm well aware of why... but that was a while ago. In the modern day there are laws against discrimination. So, why are people from different backgrounds given extra consideration if there are laws in place to combat discrimination? My question to you: Â If the benchmark for a surgeon to pass their exams is 90% and all who apply don't meet that benchmark, would you be happy receiving an operation from someone who couldn't meet that benchmark purely because of their background? Â Modern day, what year are we taking about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetSaw Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Modern day, what year are we taking about? Â I'm talking about 2017 - working where i do i have to have training on work-place discrimination and the laws around it. Therefore, i'm aware of what is expected when people apply for jobs. Â I've also been on interview panels, so am aware of the processes. Â As far as i'm concerned, the best person for the job should be appointed... it's quite simple, really. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnailyBoy Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 I'm talking about 2017 - working where i do i have to have training on work-place discrimination and the laws around it. Therefore, i'm aware of what is expected when people apply for jobs. I've also been on interview panels, so am aware of the processes.  As far as i'm concerned, the best person for the job should be appointed... it's quite simple, really.  That's great, however some employers won't be as considerate as you and ignore the best person for the job because they have a disability, or could get pregnant and want maternity leave, or simply be the wrong colour. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetSaw Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 That's great, however some employers won't be as considerate as you and ignore the best person for the job because they have a disability, or could get pregnant and want maternity leave, or simply be the wrong colour. Â And there are laws against that... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnailyBoy Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 There certainly are, however proving discrimination can be difficult. Â Things just aren't as straight forward as you might think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetSaw Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 There certainly are, however proving discrimination can be difficult. Things just aren't as straight forward as you might think.  So we should throw the baby out with the bathwater? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SnailyBoy Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 So we should throw the baby out with the bathwater? Â Huh, who suggested that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MidgetSaw Posted October 29, 2017 Share Posted October 29, 2017 Huh, who suggested that? Â It just seems you're suggesting we drop the benchmark for non-white people for fear of claims of discrimination... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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