SnailyBoy

I think men and women should be equal when it comes to bodily autonomy. Why don't you?

Nah, I explained that later on.

That's interesting, so you're advocating different rights for men and women when it comes to bodily autonomy? Unless you can come up with a restriction for men that I'm not aware of.

No trick, just a question on bodily autonomy. I can change it if you like. Do you there should be no limitations on a woman's right to choose what happens to her body?

I don't have a problem with people disagreeing. It's up to them to try and justify their reasoning.

I didn't say there was a problem. A look at the stats of late term abortions will tell you that, they very rarely happen. Women obviously feel the options are freely available. 837 in England (2014) 15 were 20 weeks or over. Northern Ireland however, there's a problem.

Desperate or what?

Yes, as I said they get assurance from the guidelines. Nope I said I wasn't qualified on the medical matters. Not strange

see #147

You're comparable to Donald Trump because of your earlier posts and the similarity to his quote from CNN, that easy to see. Nothing to do with my argument. My argument is that women should have the right to choose what happens to their bodies, with that the evidence shows that healthy women with full term viable pregnancies choose to have the baby, not this hypothetical full term abortion at 8 months and 31 days. The guidelines don't need changing because (see above) but I guess women need to be assured that the option is there for a late term abortion if their life is in danger or because of foetal abnormalities. I'm not qualified because I don't know what constitutes life in danger or come to that foetal abnormalities. Yep, I'm arguing women's rights, so?

No, I'm not answering because you're being ridiculous, repetitive and pretty boring. You know my views. I think you need to look at your attitude towards women.

I'm not qualified to give you an answer to that.

I think you're letting your emotions get the better of you. You should try and think more about actual reality.

Are you actually suggesting that healthy women with full term viable pregnancies don't choose abortion because it's illegal?

I don't think it's a simplistic as that. As I said, the evidence shows that healthy women don't do that. There are many nuances as to why someone may choose a late term abortion that need to be considered.

Of course it's about what will happen, we have evidence of what happens in reality. Healthy women with full term viable pregnancies don't choose abortion as solution to their pregnancy, look at the stats.

Nothing, as pointed out in the earlier post healthy viable full term women don't choose abortion as a solution to their pregnancy.

''nor can you confirm it never would' You want me to confirm a negative? I posted a statement from a healthcare worker in the US which I'm pretty sure reflects the situation in this country when it comes to healthy women and full term viable pregnancies. Isn't that good enough for you? I compared you to Trump because your hyperbole in earlier posts was comparable to his. No apology required, sorry. You'll also notice where I said I didn't think it would happen for a second. What I think will happen, and what happens in reality is that the healthy woman will opt to terminate the pregnancy using a C Section or induction. Unless you can come up with another equally realistic scenario?

Yes, a woman should have the the right to choose. Do I think a healthy woman with a viable full term pregnancy would want to choose that option rather than the alternative? - Not for a second.

https://edition.cnn.com/2019/02/06/health/late-term-abortion-explainer/index.html "Abortion later in pregnancy is not used as an alternative to delivering healthy women's full-term, viable pregnancies. Additionally, it's callous to suggest that healthy women with viable pregnancies at term abruptly change their minds and seek abortion care as the solution." Your hypotheticals are really narrowing. Maybe you can give an example of how that would happen in reality, we can then dig deeper to see if it holds up to scrutiny?

Give an example why they would want to.

I've made my thoughts quite clear too. Of course it's your scenario, you proposed it, particularly the caveat 'not for medical reasons'. No one in reality suggests that healthy women would use abortion as a solution to a full term viable pregnancy. Well no, there's Trump, he's done it. Come to think of it, you sound a lot like him too.

You really are callous. Are you really suggesting that's a solution for healthy women with viable pregnancies at term, what actually goes through your mind? Come up with your scenario, I want to read it.

Really, care to expand on that?

The caveats were added by the previous poster (that being to not have a baby at the end of the pregnancy). I Not for medical reasons, what's the scenario? You may want to have a look at this, while you think about it (it's been previously posted) https://edition.cnn.com/2019/02/06/health/late-term-abortion-explainer/index.html "It's important to remember, whether in a discussion about abortion care or any other component of care, that these are complicated, nuanced circumstances that affect the course of real people's lives. Particular to abortion care later in pregnancy, I would urge everyone to exercise more compassion. It's important to acknowledge that we simply cannot possibly know the circumstances of every pregnancy or the challenge of making decisions when things go terribly awry. Abortion later in pregnancy is not used as an alternative to delivering healthy women's full-term, viable pregnancies. Additionally, it's callous to suggest that healthy women with viable pregnancies at term abruptly change their minds and seek abortion care as the solution." Are you one of the callous ones?