Bob Arctor Posted February 28, 2016 Author Share Posted February 28, 2016 I've looked at the legislation you mentioned. The 1938 Act only entitles workers to 1 weeks paid annual leave. Regarding maternity leave: The UK introduced its first maternity leave legislation through the Employment Protection Act 1975, which was extended through further legislation, such as The Employment Act 1980. However, for the first 15 years, only about half of working women were eligible for it because of long qualifying periods of employment. In 1993, coverage was extended to all working women, in order to bring Britain into compliance with a European Commission directive on this issue. So in other words, in the event of a Brexit workers would have a legal entitlement to one week's paid holiday and about half of women would be entitled to maternity leave. That's not reassuring. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Arthur Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 (edited) So in other words, in the event of a Brexit workers would have a legal entitlement to one week's paid holiday and about half of women would be entitled to maternity leave. That's not reassuring. That's not the case, and your point was that Nearly all of our legal rights to paid holiday from work and paid maternity leave come from EU legislation. If Britain leaves the EU everyone's right to those will end - Question's all answered, premise incorrect, you're safer under the Tories than Labour, good news all round. Topic closed for a third time. Edited February 28, 2016 by Eric Arthur Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Arctor Posted February 28, 2016 Author Share Posted February 28, 2016 That's not the case, and your point was that Question's all answered, premise incorrect, you're safer under the Tories than Labour, good news all round. Topic closed for a third time. Eric, this is an important issue that will directly affect the majority of Sheffielders. Do you think you can lay off the egotism and grandstanding long enough for us to have a proper discussion about it? Tell me, if you disagree, what will be the legal entitlement to paid holiday and maternity leave immediately after a Brexit. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unbeliever Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Eric, this is an important issue that will directly affect the majority of Sheffielders. Do you think you can lay off the egotism and grandstanding long enough for us to have a proper discussion about it? Tell me, if you disagree, what will be the legal entitlement to paid holiday and maternity leave immediately after a Brexit. Exactly what it is now! The EU directives are an order to the UK government to change UK law. Nothing enacted in UK law as a result of EU membership and the directives which come with it, is repealed unless a vote in parliament is passed to repeal it. Brexit makes it legal to repeal these laws in the normal way that laws are made and repealed in the UK. It does not repeal them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eric Arthur Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Tell me, if you disagree, what will be the legal entitlement to paid holiday and maternity leave immediately after a Brexit. No. Why do you think that any UK government would worsen workers rights? There isn't the merest hint that would happen even if it could. The current government is enhancing workers rights without any input from the EU. You're falling for scaremongering propoganda. Employ Occam's razor instead. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the_bloke Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Nearly all of our legal rights to paid holiday from work and paid maternity leave come from EU legislation. If Britain leaves the EU everyone's right to those will end - if you have a contract then you will still have contractual rights to these but there will be nothing to stop your employer from simply changing your contract. In this situation we would be reliant on a Conservative government going out of its way to pass legislation replicating the legal rights we already have, but would you trust them to do that? Why would they want to do it? Apart from the fact the working laws in the UK are UK laws, brought in to match any extra requirements from the EU. Leaving the EU won't make UK laws obsolete. Did you also think we'll revert back to selling things in lbs and ounces again even though the Weights and Measures Act exists in UK law? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgksheff Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 ......... immediately after a Brexit. Therein lies your flaw. If you believe that a Brexit means an instant cut, you are seriously mistaken. Any withdrawal from the EU will take place over a period of time during which necessary legislation and safeguards can be put in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Arctor Posted February 28, 2016 Author Share Posted February 28, 2016 Exactly what it is now! The EU directives are an order to the UK government to change UK law. Nothing enacted in UK law as a result of EU membership and the directives which come with it, is repealed unless a vote in parliament is passed to repeal it. Brexit makes it legal to repeal these laws in the normal way that laws are made and repealed in the UK. It does not repeal them. So does this mean that the Holidays with Pay Act would now be rewritten as the Holidays with Pay Act 1938 as amended by the Working Time Regulations 1993? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Bloke Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 No. Why do you think that any UK government would worsen workers rights? There isn't the merest hint that would happen even if it could. The current government is enhancing workers rights without any input from the EU. You're falling for scaremongering propoganda. Employ Occam's razor instead. That was exactly the point I was trying to make in post #4... ... not that anyone seemed to realise it! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cgksheff Posted February 28, 2016 Share Posted February 28, 2016 Apart from the fact the working laws in the UK are UK laws, brought in to match any extra requirements from the EU. Leaving the EU won't make UK laws obsolete. ........ However, the current legislation giving 5 weeks paid leave etc. are 'regulations' required by and in reference to the European Communities Act. We will be stepping away from the European Communities Act which will render the regulations worthless. Hence the need for comparable sovereign legislation to be put in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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