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Tv licence has "10 years left"


should the bbc keep or lose the tv licence ?  

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  1. 1. should the bbc keep or lose the tv licence ?

    • make the bbc a subscription service and scrap the licence fee
      33
    • allow the bbc to show proper adverts but remove the licence fee aswell
      27
    • keep it the same and jail people for not paying for a licence
      8
    • create a new tax to support the bbc
      6


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I'm surprised the licence has 10 years left.

 

The bbc shot itself inthe foot siding with labour in the last election when they are supposed to be impartial.. that aside. Cameron will not forgive them. So now the beeb has to really toe the party line only for the conservatives now.

 

Addmitedly I rarely bother with the BBC since the Kilroy Silk business.

I personally used to think (and still do) the beeb tells lies and is oftenhypocritical and that confirmed it for me.

 

I also hate the way it appears to manipulate the outcomes and promote the PC view of all its debate programmes and many of its other so called fact programmes too.

 

 

They could save an absolute fortune. They provide too many radio channels to be honest, radios 1,2 & 4 I'll conceed have their moments. The world service and all the local radio etc can go. Loads of Internet services and web pages could go.

 

The all night 15 minutes of repeated mostly uninteresting foreign news and late night sports and business programmes, no-one who has the money to play on the stock exchange and world markets is likely to be watching TV between 3 and 6 in the morning

 

How many gadget and internet ..er enthusiasts lets call them are watching TV at all never mind in the middle of the night? Why make programme about helping people to find homes that most people will never be able to afford?

 

BBC if it is to survive needs to get out a very sharp knife and make some serious cuts.

 

Also from what I hear its light entertainment ceased to be watchable years ago and has subsequently gone down hill since then so that really needs a shake up too.

 

Expensive but money earning (so don't knock it) costume drama seem to be all they are good at now.

 

If the beeb disappeared tomorow I doubt I'd notice for about week and I would not care either.

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Paying a license fee to watch TV is ludicrous in 2015. If the BBC is to survive they need to start making programmes that people are prepared to pay to watch. As much as people moan about Sky, plenty of people are prepared to pay their fees of their own free will.

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So many angles to this

 

1. Every £145 that goes to the BBC is £145 that Murdoch could have. Gets his Tory lackeys and fanboys to talk down the BBC

 

2. The Tories mistakenly interpret any criticism as being automatically left-wing, or at the very least a sign of a lack of balance. Not true. Political correspondents at the BBC likje Robinson and Kuennsberg are very sympathetic to the Tories

 

3. Tory ideological opposition to anything that is part of the state

 

Dismantle the BBC and its gone forever. Like the NHS. Like a national rail system.. Gone!

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I think Television is nearly finished as we thought of it in the past. It's just programmes now. People don't watch channels they watch shows. And they watch them on a variety of devices, the idea of the whole family sitting around watching TV, or people having their living area alligned with all the seats facing a television set is obsolete. Having a TV licence seems ludicrous to anyone under the age of 18, it's like having to have a licence to have a cooker, or a washing machine.

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I'd happily pay £145 a year subscription for BBC web, TV and radio. It's exceptional value when you consider the equivalent Sky/Times subscription costs. And you still have ads across all their platforms.

So why do you suppose the BBC are so reluctant to give people the CHOICE, in the same way that Sky do?

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I think Television is nearly finished as we thought of it in the past. It's just programmes now. People don't watch channels they watch shows. And they watch them on a variety of devices, the idea of the whole family sitting around watching TV, or people having their living area alligned with all the seats facing a television set is obsolete. Having a TV licence seems ludicrous to anyone under the age of 18, it's like having to have a licence to have a cooker, or a washing machine.

 

I don't think any of what you said is totally true. Yes it might be there are more viewing options now but there is still a roaring trade in TVs for lounges. There is still a roaring trade in sofas for lounges. Lots of families still sit down together. TVs now are basically just computers anyway.

 

Sometimes I really, really wonder about people...........

 

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So why do you suppose the BBC are so reluctant to give people the CHOICE, in the same way that Sky do?

 

Two different broadcasting models

 

Public service vs commercial

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I'd happily pay £145 a year subscription for BBC web, TV and radio. It's exceptional value when you consider the equivalent Sky/Times subscription costs. And you still have ads across all their platforms.

 

Consider that some people Are subsidizing your tv, would you pay £500 per year for the BBC ?

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So why do you suppose the BBC are so reluctant to give people the CHOICE, in the same way that Sky do?

 

Probably because their remit also includes public service broadcasting, which of course independent media does not.

 

There is something to be said for the educational value of the BBC, for example in the childrens tv, nature and science programmes to those who could not otherwise afford to pay to view. Nevertheless I think I would rather a subscription service.

 

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Consider that some people Are subsidizing your tv, would you pay £500 per year for the BBC ?

 

Yes I probably would. But in fact it is more that I am cross subsidising others TV and radio. The BBC also pays to maintain broadcast equipment too. So part of the reason for a license fee is that it like line rental for your phone, it pays to maintain infrastructure.

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