Airliner possibly shot down over Ukraine

[LeMaquis]

Thats the point. There are lots of ways an aircraft can blow up. Lightning strike. Catastrophic failure of an outer door, space debris, collision with another plane.

 

Lightning at over 30,000 feet? And if another plane had hit it wouldn't there have been 2 planes down?

[roosterboost]

Lightning at over 30,000 feet? And if another plane had hit it wouldn't there have been 2 planes down?

 

Lightning goes up as well as down. There would only be 2 planes down if both crashed.

[LeMaquis]

Lightning goes up as well as down. There would only be 2 planes down if both crashed.

 

Does lightning often go up over 30,000 feet. And does it happen often that 2 planes collide in mid-air with one surviving but not reporting the collision?

[roosterboost]

 

Not at 32 thousand feet they didn't.

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/120_mm_M1_gun :roll::roll:

 

The 120 mm Gun M1 was the United States Army's standard super-heavy anti-aircraft gun, complementing the smaller and more mobile M2 90 mm gun in service. Its maximum altitude was about 60,000 ft (18,000 m),

 

The M1 gun was used in air defense, from 1944 through the early cold war period when the system was gradually phased out with active duty units, beginning in 1954 when the Nike Ajax surface to air missile gave air defenders a significantly greater long range capability

 

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Does lightning often go up over 30,000 feet. And does it happen often that 2 planes collide in mid-air with one surviving but not reporting the collision?

 

http://www.king5.com/weather/weather-minds/Whats-the-highest-altitude-that-lightning-can-reach-into-the-sky-163253076.html

 

What's the highest altitude that lightning can reach into the sky?

 

Lightning can strike the ground, other clouds or within a cloud. The tallest, well-documented thunderstorm reached 78,000' in Kansas in 1992. However, special types called red sprites, elfs and blue jets have been detected above thunderstorms to altitudes of 270,000'!

 

I would imagine if you were flying a military jet that had just knocked the tail off a civilian aircraft over Ukraine your commanders might want to keep a lid on it. Don't you? EG. Russian military plane..

Edited July 18, 2014 by roosterboost

[buck]

I can only hope that Malaysian Airlines dont end up going the same way as Pan Am did after Lockerbie.

 

It would be a shame if the airline got the reputation of being a jinx but people are superstitious.

I think Pan Am was on its way out before Lockerbie. TWA failed not too long afterwards. It was a great shame. Both Airlines had a good reputation for quality servce even in coach, but were expensive. Now you get crammed into a tiny space for six hours or more, with a packet of peanuts.

[roosterboost]

Incidentally does anyone remember ValuJet Flight 592?

 

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ValuJet_Flight_592

 

 

or

 

http://www.smh.com.au/travel/travel-planning/travel-news/qantas-jets-exploding-oxygen-cylinder-remains-a-mystery-20101122-183aj.html

Edited July 18, 2014 by roosterboost

[buck]

Does lightning often go up over 30,000 feet. And does it happen often that 2 planes collide in mid-air with one surviving but not reporting the collision?

Lightning needs clouds. Have you noticed when you're up over 30,000 feet that there are rarely clouds that high. A lot of lightning occurs between cloud layers, and never touches the ground. When the Comets began crashing, it was found that the shape of the windows in the cabin, being square, cracked allowing instant decompression and making the fuselages implode. Even a small missile blowing a hole in a fuselage would have the same effect. The spread of debris and bodies proves that the aircraft disintegrated from high up. There have been a few instances of aircraft surviving collision, sometimes even both of them, but rarely if ever in the case of two airliners as far as I know. Edited July 18, 2014 by buck

[BEDROCK]

Russia are in this up to their necks, if Putin is found responsible then what happens then ???

[buck]

Does lightning often go up over 30,000 feet. And does it happen often that 2 planes collide in mid-air with one surviving but not reporting the collision?

Lightning needs clouds. Have you noticed when you're up over 30,000 feet that there are rarely clouds that high. A lot of lightning occurs between cloud layers, and never touches the ground. When the Comets began crashing, it was found that the shape of the windows in the cabin, being square, cracked allowing instant decompression and making the fuselages implode. Even a small missile blowing a hole in a fuselage would have the same effect. The spread of debris and bodies proves that the aircraft disintegrated from high up.

[SqueakyPete]

Russia are in this up to their necks, if Putin is found responsible then what happens then ???

 

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