Ian Watkins (Lostprophets) pleads guilty to sex offences with children

[Amaranthus 10]

For once "won't somebody think of the children" is totally apt.

 

The mothers should be kept anonymous without fools trying to sneak it out or give enough clues etc, not for the mothers, but for the children who have been innocently caught up in this. Their lives would become an even bigger living hell if it was widely known they were the ones involved. We don't need a tragedy adding to this already hideous story, and certainly not one caused by strangers flouting the law because of some perverted sense of justice.

 

The children are going to be given new identities. Things like this always come out in the age of the internet. These poor children (and babies!) can start over with a new life and a new family and I hope and pray they were all young enough to be able to forget what's happened to them and not have to carry around that burden with them all their lives.

[Bonzo77 13]

If there was a death penalty for crimes like this, then not only would there be molested children, but possibly also murdered children too...

 

Couldn't agree more!

[dosxuk 10]

The children are going to be given new identities. Things like this always come out in the age of the internet.

 

Exactly. And that's the problem. Naming the mothers will inevitably lead to the identification of completely innocent parties who will not want or need reminding of what has happened.

 

And that's why idiots shouldn't be trying to publish the names of the mothers on twitter / facebook / sheffield forum.

[LeMaquis 10]

Back to the original issue. I was in a charity shop today and noticed a Lostprophets CD for sale. I mentioned to the manageress that it was the bloke in court last week for trying to rape a baby. She'd not even heard of the case but took the CD off the shelf in case someone took exception. I also see stuff by Gary Glitter for sale quite often. I think a lot of charity shop managers are oblivious to some people's backgrounds even though I'd expect charity shops to have more ethical standards that normal shops.

[angos 10]

Back to the original issue. I was in a charity shop today and noticed a Lostprophets CD for sale. I mentioned to the manageress that it was the bloke in court last week for trying to rape a baby. She'd not even heard of the case but took the CD off the shelf in case someone took exception. I also see stuff by Gary Glitter for sale quite often. I think a lot of charity shop managers are oblivious to some people's backgrounds even though I'd expect charity shops to have more ethical standards that normal shops.

 

There is nothing unethical about a charity shop selling a second hand CD which was donated to them to help their cause, its not like Ian Watkins was going to benefit from its sale.

[LeMaquis 10]

There is nothing unethical about a charity shop selling a second hand CD which was donated to them to help their cause, its not like Ian Watkins was going to benefit from its sale.

 

It didn't take long for you to revert to type, did it, Smithy. We all know to what extent you think sex with children is unethical and it doesn't put you in a position to lecture others on ethics.

[melthebell 864]

There is nothing unethical about a charity shop selling a second hand CD which was donated to them to help their cause, its not like Ian Watkins was going to benefit from its sale.

exactly i think all that stuffs ludicrous

 

like with Paul Gadd, people were up in arms about him recieving royalties for his gary glitter music, im sorry but theres no corelation between the acts he commited and the music, both were done seperetly, why shouldnt somebody recieve royalties for music theyve written? its not like hes benefitting from his crimes, nor is his music glorfying his crimes, they are completely isolated from one another

in fact in one way hes prolly stuffed up his royalties anyway cos a lot less will be sold / played since.

 

i do feel bad for the glitter band theyve had a right struggle since to keep going, and the now the other members of lost prophets who have to start from scratch

[dosxuk 10]

they are completely isolated from one another

 

Apart from the bit where he used his fame to get the access to babies that he did.

[melthebell 864]

Apart from the bit where he used his fame to get the access to babies that he did.

well, but still, the music and fame came before the dodgy stuff

 

by the way on a similer not i was shocked to read Roy Harpers also in court for sex charges with young girls Oo

doesnt seem to be widely reported tho? i read it in todays sun i think it was

[LeMaquis 10]

exactly i think all that stuffs ludicrous

 

like with Paul Gadd, people were up in arms about him recieving royalties for his gary glitter music, im sorry but theres no corelation between the acts he commited and the music, both were done seperetly, why shouldnt somebody recieve royalties for music theyve written? its not like hes benefitting from his crimes, nor is his music glorfying his crimes, they are completely isolated from one another

 

The point is not about his royalties but that a charity would benefit from selling his stuff.

 

As for the lack of a link between his music and his evil deeds, he used his fans to help him abuse children. It would be like saying there was no link between the BBC and Jimmy Savile's crimes. Fame gives someone power and influence over others.

[angos 10]

The point is not about his royalties but that a charity would benefit from selling his stuff.

 

As for the lack of a link between his music and his evil deeds, he used his fans to help him abuse children. It would be like saying there was no link between the BBC and Jimmy Savile's crimes. Fame gives someone power and influence over others.

 

So you would think it immoral to sell all Jimmy Saviles stuff to raise money to help abused children?

[Jeffrey Shaw 90]

BBC Radio 4Extra's excellent show "Heresy" covered just this aspect only yesterday.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/programmes/b00k3zzb

Edited December 3, 2013 by Jeffrey Shaw