The New Moor Market

[anywebsite]

It's not clear what the plan is but whatever it is, it's not happening soon the landlord put a signup advertising retail space in there. It's a nice building but aside from the ground floor shops, it's looking increasingly worn out. Another building going to rack and ruin because no has a clear plan for it, although this time we can blame the co-op group not the council.

 

I think we can blame the council as there have been unclear council plans to demolish it for years, so it's just been stood empty.

 

---------- Post added 26-03-2014 at 06:40 ----------

 

But it should not though, because most big cities actually has a market that attracts tourism too.

 

I remember visiting the one in Stockholm and it is a working local market where they sell fish and other produces to the local community, as well as attracting tourists too to taste their local delicacies. So it is win-win overall.

 

If this gets going, then it can even be written into guide books, and they normally DO write about this kind of thing. A friend recently posted on his Facebook about this yummy Yorkshire Ham, so it is indeed quite revered. I am not sure if the locals here realises this kind of selling point of old heritage.

 

I also miss a good roast sandwich. I cannot see them anywhere any more. I found a place in York recently when I went with my bf, and he was wow'd by it. It was so fresh and so nice. I really miss that kind of thing from my childhood days. You used to be able to get actual entire roast ham from the market for very little money. Then cross the road, and you can get a roast chicken nicely done at this store next to the Co-op. People used to queue a lot for this too.

 

I know that the supermarkets also do this now but there is no reason why it cannot be brought back too in the market. I think the ham is a good idea. I rather buy a whole roasted small size ham and cut it for my sandwiches per week than to buy prepacked ham.

 

Tourists will only put the prices up & make them sell tourist tat in the market, but anyway...

 

Why do you miss a good roast sandwich? Your location says Sheffield? Is there some sandwich shop somewhere that doesn't do good roast pork sandwiches? If you're really that stuck then go to Sharon's in the market.

 

You can still get good cooked meats from the market. Ham, Chicken, Pork, the roast chickens are good & cheap, don't even need to leave the market. If you visited the market in Sheffield rather than Stockholm you wouldn't be missing all these things.

Edited March 26, 2014 by anywebsite

[boldforester]

They are.

 

I hear that Harvey Nicks, Mansfield is about to announce record profits.

 

Amazing really:rolleyes:

 

I'm from Mansfield. I take it you mean the real Harvey Nicks?!

[salsafan]

...

Tourists will only put the prices up & make them sell tourist tat in the market, but anyway...

 

No, this is what I hate about Sheffielders and their sense of what is classed as "tourism". I go to London and I see all these touristy tacky things, and I do despise it to be honest. There is indeed a middle ground you know.

 

I went to York recently and I loved what they were showcasing and is selling. They are not tacky items but pretty high-end and well made locally. They are also made by local people as well. It beats the things which comes out of the chain stores.

 

In Stockholm, in their market, they were selling local produces. This is what was attracting tourists in, because this is not going to be fish that you can get from a Costco, or another chain store too. It is local, and it is from the surrounding areas. Local eat this. Tourists eat this. It brings tourists in because it is unique to the place. That is why it thrived. The increasing tourisms and similar "copy cat" style hotels, or copy cat places are everywhere. But if you want somebody to come here, then you got to offer what is local to your environment and from the surrounding areas. We do have a lot of those already, it just need raising its profile, and also consolidating it into the right places, and marketed it better, that is all.

 

I think it is the marketing side which is letting things down I guess.

 

Why do you miss a good roast sandwich? Your location says Sheffield? Is there some sandwich shop somewhere that doesn't do good roast pork sandwiches? If you're really that stuck then go to Sharon's in the market.

Yes, I have moved back home again. I was working elsewhere before.

 

Maybe I will check out Sharon's in the market. I guess I am a bit disillusioned and not knowing where things are any more cos it keeps changing ! This is also annoying as well as I tried to find a post office the other day.

 

You can still get good cooked meats from the market. Ham, Chicken, Pork, the roast chickens are good & cheap, don't even need to leave the market. If you visited the market in Sheffield rather than Stockholm you wouldn't be missing all these things.

I was reminiscing those hot food. Hot ham being sold near the market in the good old days ? My mother used to bring a whole ham home ! Sometimes when I work away or live in a new place, and I eat so badly and rely on manufactured junk. It really upsets me. Because I think to how well I ate when I was a child. Next time I go to the market, I shall check it out thoroughly for the hot food. Hm...

 

Hey, I still do visit the market now.

Edited March 26, 2014 by salsafan

[Degetal]

The new Crawhsaws is now open on The Moor. I had a look in this lunchtime and it's certainly much more up my street than the one in the market. I'll certainly be giving them my trade in the future, whereas I've never once used the one in the market, which had no customers this lunchtime.

 

I also had a quick look at Beer Central......Jaipur and Halcyon £3.50/bottle....I can get Jaipur for £2.40 at Waitrose and Halcyon for £3.00 at the Butchers up Walkley.....It makes no financial sense for me to buy my beer there.

 

Regards

 

Doom

 

Not sure what you expect? Of course Waitrose will have it cheaper. Could argue that maybe Halcyon should be in line with the butchers but there is very little individual pricing at Beer Central, but I can't really defend that.

 

I go pretty regularly and I'm happy to pay a premium to try different beers. I've tried dozens since it has opened and I'd say 95% of those are beers I wouldn't be able to buy from Waitrose, Tesco or whoever. And the staff are friendly and knowledgeable, which is always a bonus.

[anywebsite]

I know. Cooked, and then preserved as cold meat. Isn't it done this way ? I was reminiscing those hot food. Hot ham being sold near the market in the good old days ? My mother used to bring a whole ham home ! Sometimes when I work away or live in a new place, and I eat so badly and rely on manufactured junk. It really upsets me. Because I think to how well I ate when I was a child. Next time I go to the market, I shall check it out thoroughly for the hot food. Hm...

 

Hot chickens at Smith & Tissington, first stall you get to in the food section, don't know how you can have missed them, then hot pork at Wateralls just a bit further along.

 

A few of the cafes in the market do hot roast pork or beef sandwiches & roast dinners too, Sharon's is good. I don't know of a sandwich shop in Sheffield that doesn't do hot roast pork sandwiches at least one day a week.

 

No need to live on manufactured junk, you can get fresh meat, fish, fruit, nuts & vegetables at the market. It's just the big supermarkets & fast food chains pushing unhealthy processed junk food, you can still get fresh local produce from smaller independent businesses.

Edited March 26, 2014 by anywebsite

[Doom]

Not sure what you expect? Of course Waitrose will have it cheaper. Could argue that maybe Halcyon should be in line with the butchers but there is very little individual pricing at Beer Central, but I can't really defend that.

 

I go pretty regularly and I'm happy to pay a premium to try different beers. I've tried dozens since it has opened and I'd say 95% of those are beers I wouldn't be able to buy from Waitrose, Tesco or whoever. And the staff are friendly and knowledgeable, which is always a bonus.

 

I'm not knocking the shop, I really do hope it does well, because it offers something different in the city centre, but the comparison with the Butchers does show their pricing is certainly on the high side.

 

In the past I used to bulk buy 'unusual' beers from Beers of Europe, but in recent times I've found their prices have risen quite substantially for the more popular beers, so these days I don't tend to bother.

 

I've also used the Dram Shop quite a bit in the past, but I've not been there for a while either.

 

Maybe it's me whose getting a bit tight with how much I'm willing to spend on specialist beers, due to my own financial circumstances taking a hit during the recession, but these days I do find it much harder to justify spending £3.50 on a single bottle of beer, especially when I can get the excellent Thornbridge beers for £3.00 or less.

 

When I feel a bit more flush I'll probably buy a bottle or two from Beer Central, I have enjoyed a few Moor Brewery beers in the past and that's the only place I've seen them locally.

 

Regards

 

Doom

[T 42]

Has anyone been to the New chocolate stall? This morning I got a bag of 50 walnut whips (32 of them had the walnut missing) 1 kilo of unbroken strawberry brittle and 35 melted Magnum golds all for a tenner

 

It sounds more like the Secondhand chocolate stall to me.

[salsafan]

Hot chickens at Smith & Tissington, first stall you get to in the food section, don't know how you can have missed them, then hot pork at Wateralls just a bit further along.

 

A few of the cafes in the market do hot roast pork or beef sandwiches & roast dinners too, Sharon's is good. I don't know of a sandwich shop in Sheffield that doesn't do hot roast pork sandwiches at least one day a week.

 

No need to live on manufactured junk, you can get fresh meat, fish, fruit, nuts & vegetables at the market. It's just the big supermarkets & fast food chains pushing unhealthy processed junk food, you can still get fresh local produce from smaller independent businesses.

Thanks for that info. I really appreciate it. I'm going to try it this week and make the best of it whilst I am still back home here.

[beer]

I'm not knocking the shop, I really do hope it does well, because it offers something different in the city centre, but the comparison with the Butchers does show their pricing is certainly on the high side.

 

In the past I used to bulk buy 'unusual' beers from Beers of Europe, but in recent times I've found their prices have risen quite substantially for the more popular beers, so these days I don't tend to bother.

 

I've also used the Dram Shop quite a bit in the past, but I've not been there for a while either.

 

Maybe it's me whose getting a bit tight with how much I'm willing to spend on specialist beers, due to my own financial circumstances taking a hit during the recession, but these days I do find it much harder to justify spending £3.50 on a single bottle of beer, especially when I can get the excellent Thornbridge beers for £3.00 or less.

 

When I feel a bit more flush I'll probably buy a bottle or two from Beer Central, I have enjoyed a few Moor Brewery beers in the past and that's the only place I've seen them locally.

 

Regards

 

Doom

 

I'm no big fan of the bottled beers for new micros. My local is a Thornbridge pub and you only have to look at the walls to see the growing pain of turning a micro into a successful brewery. There are at least 50 Thornbridge pump clips on the walls. Experimental beers that were brewed mostly unsuccessfully, but all put through the handpumps.

The thing about micros is they brew lots of different beers in the hope of getting it right. Thornbridge got Jaipur right. Kelham Island got it right with Pale Rider. Abbeydale with Moonshine.etc etc. The rest of their beers are OK but not exceptional.

Now anyone can stick beer into a bottle. Some even persuade a supermarket to stock it. But just because it comes from a micro doesn't mean it will stand the test of time.

I love draught beer and spend a lot of time in the noted pubs drinking it. When it comes to bottled beer I'm happy buying from supermarkets particularly when they are offering 4 for a fiver. I buy dozens of different brews, but I have my favourites. I wince at paying £3.50 for a bottle of ale just because I hadn't heard the name before, particularly if as in the past I've usually been disappointed.

So I like to let a beer pass the test. If it is brewed twice it is probably OK. If it is recommended by a friend I will try it. But just because it is called Dog's Knob I probably wouldn't fork out the £3.50 when I know I can buy so many excellent beers for £1.25 and that includes many from the micros. Indeed I bought some Wentworth WPA a couple of weeks ago at £0.99p/bottle.

[taxman]

I'm not knocking the shop, I really do hope it does well, because it offers something different in the city centre, but the comparison with the Butchers does show their pricing is certainly on the high side.

 

In the past I used to bulk buy 'unusual' beers from Beers of Europe, but in recent times I've found their prices have risen quite substantially for the more popular beers, so these days I don't tend to bother.

 

I've also used the Dram Shop quite a bit in the past, but I've not been there for a while either.

 

Maybe it's me whose getting a bit tight with how much I'm willing to spend on specialist beers, due to my own financial circumstances taking a hit during the recession, but these days I do find it much harder to justify spending £3.50 on a single bottle of beer, especially when I can get the excellent Thornbridge beers for £3.00 or less.

 

When I feel a bit more flush I'll probably buy a bottle or two from Beer Central, I have enjoyed a few Moor Brewery beers in the past and that's the only place I've seen them locally.

 

Regards

 

Doom

 

I'm a regular and loyalty card holder. I like it because I've discovered stuff in there I never would have done otherwise. Some real corkers and breweries I've never heard of.

 

However I've recently starting revisiting The Dram Shop. They have some beers Beer Central does but cheaper, sometimes 60p-£1 cheaper, and as it's on my way home I've started popping in a lot more regularly. Both shops have pretty exclusive beers as well, the Dram Shop has some cracking Flying Dog beers whilst BC stocks SteelCity when it can.

 

In effect, my visits to BC have rekindled my enthusiasm for certain bottled beers, which in turn has led to me buying from the excellent Dram Shop again.