johncocker   10 #37 Posted September 7, 2012 (edited) Really, £45-50 grand is underpayment?   have you ever had a proper job?  do you know anything about conditions ,workers rights ,fly in fly out contracts,457 visa's,accomodation ripoffs,zone tax allowences,working in isolated areas allowences, ?thats just the tip of the iceberg,which unions and their members have fought long and hard for .  not to let this fat billionaire pig of a women erode them by bringing in her desperate third world imports who havn't got a clue about workers rights. Edited September 7, 2012 by johncocker Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
johncocker   10 #38 Posted September 7, 2012 Why isn't it? I posted everything that she said in the video, and everything that was written in the article, and was said by the commentator and PM in the video.  They don't match.  Can you not see the difference between... 'World's richest women thinks people should work for $2 a day' (thread title)  'She said Africans willing to work for $2 a day should be an inspiration' (taken from the write up)  and...  'Africans are prepared to work for $2 a day, such statistics make me worry for worry for this countries future' - which is what she actually said? Can you not see it Bonzo? I'm not defending the woman, I am criticizing journalism. People are influenced by journalism, so when they write things out of context, it brings on a storm of ignorance. Most newspapers do it, I was annoyed that the BBC drag themselves so blatantly obviously into this method. Maybe it's the only way to get attention.[/QUOTE]   so very true its sad to see the bbc going tabiloid because this woman needs to be exposed for what she's done in the past and what she really stands for. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Crayfish   10 #39 Posted September 7, 2012 have you ever had a proper job? do you know anything about conditions ,workers rights ,fly in fly out contracts,457 visa's,accomodation ripoffs,zone tax allowences,working in isolated areas allowences, ?thats just the tip of the iceberg,which unions and their members have fought long and hard for .  not to let this fat billionaire pig of a women erode them by bringing in her desperate third world imports who havn't got a clue about workers rights.  I've never worked in mining in Australia if that's what you mean, but if they pay that sort of money, where do you sign up?  Do you think that the people from "the third world" do a worse job? If they can do the same job for less money why shouldn't she employ them? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
johncocker   10 #40 Posted September 7, 2012 I've never worked in mining in Australia if that's what you mean, but if they pay that sort of money, where do you sign up? Do you think that the people from "the third world" do a worse job? If they can do the same job for less money why shouldn't she employ them?    are you really that thick or just pretending ?  have you ever worked , or are you still at school? I'll make it simple for you lets say you went to uni for 4 or 5 years or did an apprenticeship finally qualified after years of study and hard slog ,then got a job ,then lost it because of imports from the third world who'd work for half your salary just to get out of the hell hole they came from, because they had no workers rights , conditions,or a decent wage. would you still be making the same statement.?  people like you are needed in africa:hihi: Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Crayfish   10 #41 Posted September 7, 2012 (edited) [/b]   are you really that thick or just pretending ?  have you ever worked , or are you still at school? I'll make it simple for you lets say you went to uni for 4 or 5 years or did an apprenticeship finally qualified after years of study and hard slog ,then got a job ,then lost it because of imports from the third world who'd work for half your salary just to get out of the hell hole they came from, because they had no workers rights , conditions,or a decent wage. would you still be making the same statement.?  people like you are needed in africa:hihi:  You are entitled to your opinion regarding my intellect, but it's rude to spell it out like that. Perhaps you should apply your considerable powers of cognition to acquiring some manners.  I actually went to University for 7 years and I work in a field with substantial movement of people internationally. That means that I have to be competitive and earn my way as part of a global workforce. Why should being born in one particular location entitle someone to rights far beyond those of someone born elsewhere?  In your scenario, you'd rather that capable people were condemned to a "hell hole" (your words) while you lived a privileged life through no personal merit other than place of birth? Having lived in a developed country should have given Australians ample opportunity to gain skills that people in developing countries won't have. If they're equally skilled, either the Aussies have been doing something wrong or the "imports" have been working damn hard and deserve the job. Edited September 7, 2012 by Crayfish Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Mister M Â Â 1,627 #42 Posted September 7, 2012 (edited) Thats bang on! Good post. Â No it's not at all. I saw her on a current affairs programme where she said exactly the same as reported on here. So the BBC have not quoted her out of context. Honestly some people on here would defend those slaughtering the first born if they were a Tory And those who accuse others of criticising the rich as doing so out of envy should stop judging others by their own standards. Edited September 7, 2012 by Mister M Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
puisseguin   10 #43 Posted September 7, 2012 (edited) Some woman in Australia (the richest woman in the world) who owes her fortune to inheriting a mining empire, thinks that Australians should stop drinking and smoking and think about being more competitive like the Africans who work for $2 a day.  http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/business-19487985    Surely they should be a lot of support for this woman on here?  She WORKED hard for her mineral rights upon the land did she not? She deserves it. And the plebians should be grateful to work for $2 a day.  What do you think?  What a load of absolute baloney. The woman said nothing about people in Australia working for $2/day. She says she looked at folk in Africa who were prepared to work for $2/day and it worried her. I think if I were in a business that paid western wages and had to compete on the world markets with competitors that paid $2/day it would worry me too. I don't suppose the customers in China who buy the bulk of the worlds minerals are bothered where the raw materials come from. They will buy from whoever can supply at the lowest cost.  Thats bang on! Good post.  I see you spotted that too. Edited September 7, 2012 by puisseguin Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
puisseguin   10 #44 Posted September 7, 2012 Paying some poor sod $2 a day is most likely the reason this plonker got as wealthy as she did. What's that saying about "much shall have more...?"  I would think absolutely the opposite. She got rich paying Australians Australian wages in the era when they didn't have to compete on a world market. Now she is paying Australians Australian wages whilst trying to compete against mines in Africa that pay $2 a day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
NorthernStar   11 #45 Posted September 7, 2012 I would think absolutely the opposite. She got rich paying Australians Australian wages in the era when they didn't have to compete on a world market. Now she is paying Australians Australian wages whilst trying to compete against mines in Africa that pay $2 a day.  She's nothing but just another privileged pig who's own father once described her as 'a slothful, vindictive and devious baby elephant'.  Clearly a greedy talentless pig who wants to make money for herself before her own family and country, it should be legal to shoot filth like her or at least harpoon in her case IMO.  If she could move the mines to Africa then there is no doubt in my mine that that is exactly what she would do. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Plain Talker   11 #46 Posted September 7, 2012 She's nothing but just another privileged pig who's own father once described her as 'a slothful, vindictive and devious baby elephant'. Clearly a greedy talentless pig who wants to make money for herself before her own family and country, it should be legal to shoot filth like her or at least harpoon in her case IMO.  *Snorts with laughter* Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Crayfish   10 #47 Posted September 7, 2012 She's nothing but just another privileged pig who's own father once described her as 'a slothful, vindictive and devious baby elephant'. Clearly a greedy talentless pig who wants to make money for herself before her own family and country, it should be legal to shoot filth like her or at least harpoon in her case IMO.  If she could move the mines to Africa then there is no doubt in my mine that that is exactly what she would do.  Haha Exceptional insult.  Yeah, she's a genuinely horrible person by all accounts, I've read an article on her before somewhere that wasn't exactly flattering. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
puisseguin   10 #48 Posted September 7, 2012 She's nothing but just another privileged pig who's own father once described her as 'a slothful, vindictive and devious baby elephant'. Clearly a greedy talentless pig who wants to make money for herself before her own family and country, it should be legal to shoot filth like her or at least harpoon in her case IMO.  If she could move the mines to Africa then there is no doubt in my mine that that is exactly what she would do.  I think the way that mines move to Africa is the customers buy from Africa and the none competitive mines in afluent countries close down. I believe there was once an uncompetitive coal mining industry in England. Before that there were copper mines, tin mines and lead mines. Even iron ore is too expensive to mine here. It is pretty much the case with everything else. Manufacturing closes in high wage societies and reopens in the third world. The self righteous pontificate about the wages on here and throw insult for each other to sneer about, then go and buy the cheap goods made in China because they cost less. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...