SiSiSi   10 #13 Posted April 28, 2012 Hang on, I'm confused now. You say that WT came first and was developed by Leung Ting. He was taught by Yip Man. So what did Yip Man teach him? I thought that Yip Man was a WC teacher. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
general_head   10 #14 Posted April 30, 2012 Does anyone in Sheffield teach Jeet Kon Do? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
lotar   10 #15 Posted April 30, 2012 As I said I am not at that level only been doing it a few years, but seen it here many times. WT is NOT a self defense martial art, we do not defend we attack any space given, we do not fight force with force as at some point someone will always be stronger than you, we use their force against them.  Yes I think you are right it was developed by Leung Ting a former student of Yip Man.  don't understand... you go around attacking empty spaces ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
SiSiSi   10 #16 Posted April 30, 2012 (edited) I rather suspect that the OP won't be visiting this thread again. Some 'awkward' questions have been asked. Edited April 30, 2012 by SiSiSi Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
JL86 Â Â 10 #17 Posted April 30, 2012 I rather suspect that the OP won't be visiting this thread again. Some 'awkward' questions have been asked. Â --- Â That and no-ones really bothered to address the original question.... Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Wroughton   10 #18 Posted April 30, 2012 Are Wang Chung still popular? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
JoJoSheffUK Â Â 10 #19 Posted May 1, 2012 Nothing awkward at all, just getting ready to move home, lots to do. Â Empty space is to be attacked yes. Never give up ground, Always go towards the person's middle. If they leave a gap (space) between them and a target on the body then attract it, even better the space behind them. We do not hit a space on a body, but along a line, so even a inch punch will do big damage if you are hitting behind them. Â As far as I know WT is the only martial art that trains you to fight all other martial art as well as street fighting (and also win in court if it get's there) Not that I would have that problem in Thailand, or had any fights here for that matter. I do not want to fight, just know how to if I must one day. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
onewheeldave   22 #20 Posted May 1, 2012 WT would win every time, with two people having trained for the same amount of time. Also I am moving back from Thailand, and kickboxing gets no where near to it at all.  I am not at that level yet, but mates are, and not seen any kick-boxer get near, and the Thai do try as they hate to lose face.  I guess that explains the phenomenal success of wing-chun (sorry, tsun) fighters (sorry, tsun) in mma/cage fighting. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
onewheeldave   22 #21 Posted May 1, 2012 WT would win every time, with two people having trained for the same amount of time. Also I am moving back from Thailand, and kickboxing gets no where near to it at all.  I am not at that level yet, but mates are, and not seen any kick-boxer get near, and the Thai do try as they hate to lose face.  If you knew much at all about fighting or genuine self defence, the bit in bold would not be there.  I've never understood why wing-chun attracts so many fantasists. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Gojuryuben   10 #22 Posted May 1, 2012 As far as I know WT is the only martial art that trains you to fight all other martial art as well as street fighting (and also win in court if it get's there) Not that I would have that problem in Thailand, or had any fights here for that matter. I do not want to fight, just know how to if I must one day.  How does WT train you win in court, surely it's up to the jury to decide if it was self defence or not.  Where did you used to train sounds like one hell of dojo ? Who was your instructor ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
onewheeldave   22 #23 Posted May 2, 2012  Empty space is to be attacked yes.  Why?? What's it ever done to you?  If they leave a gap (space) between them and a target on the body then attract it, even better the space behind them.  Attract it? How do you attract a gap, and, why would you want to?    even better the space behind them. We do not hit a space on a body, That could be where you're going astray- in martial arts you're supposed to hit the body, and, where possible, not be trying to hit the empty spaces.    so even a inch punch will do big damage if you are hitting behind them.  Only if it makes contact though: if you're hitting behind them it sounds like you may be slipping back into the 'attacking the empty spaces' mentality Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
onewheeldave   22 #24 Posted May 2, 2012 Put it this way, Wing Tsun came before Wing Chun....  As I said I am not at that level only been doing it a few years, but seen it here many times. WT is NOT a self defense martial art, we do not defend we attack any space given, we do not fight force with force as at some point someone will always be stronger than you, we use their force against them.  Yes I think you are right it was developed by Leung Ting a former student of Yip Man.  What? those two statements aren't compatible- If one is true the other can't be, and, vice-versa  Is it a koan? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...