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Hang on, I'm confused now. You say that WT came first and was developed by Leung Ting. He was taught by Yip Man. So what did Yip Man teach him? I thought that Yip Man was a WC teacher.

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As I said I am not at that level only been doing it a few years, but seen it here many times.

 

WT is NOT a self defense martial art, we do not defend we attack any space given, we do not fight force with force as at some point someone will always be stronger than you, we use their force against them.

 

Yes I think you are right it was developed by Leung Ting a former student of Yip Man.

 

don't understand... you go around attacking empty spaces ?

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I rather suspect that the OP won't be visiting this thread again. Some 'awkward' questions have been asked.

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I rather suspect that the OP won't be visiting this thread again. Some 'awkward' questions have been asked.

 

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That and no-ones really bothered to address the original question....

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Nothing awkward at all, just getting ready to move home, lots to do.

 

Empty space is to be attacked yes. Never give up ground, Always go towards the person's middle. If they leave a gap (space) between them and a target on the body then attract it, even better the space behind them. We do not hit a space on a body, but along a line, so even a inch punch will do big damage if you are hitting behind them.

 

As far as I know WT is the only martial art that trains you to fight all other martial art as well as street fighting (and also win in court if it get's there) Not that I would have that problem in Thailand, or had any fights here for that matter. I do not want to fight, just know how to if I must one day.

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WT would win every time, with two people having trained for the same amount of time.

 

Also I am moving back from Thailand, and kickboxing gets no where near to it at all.

 

I am not at that level yet, but mates are, and not seen any kick-boxer get near, and the Thai do try as they hate to lose face.

 

I guess that explains the phenomenal success of wing-chun (sorry, tsun) fighters (sorry, tsun) in mma/cage fighting. :)

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WT would win every time, with two people having trained for the same amount of time.

 

Also I am moving back from Thailand, and kickboxing gets no where near to it at all.

 

I am not at that level yet, but mates are, and not seen any kick-boxer get near, and the Thai do try as they hate to lose face.

 

If you knew much at all about fighting or genuine self defence, the bit in bold would not be there.

 

I've never understood why wing-chun attracts so many fantasists.

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As far as I know WT is the only martial art that trains you to fight all other martial art as well as street fighting (and also win in court if it get's there) Not that I would have that problem in Thailand, or had any fights here for that matter. I do not want to fight, just know how to if I must one day.

 

How does WT train you win in court, surely it's up to the jury to decide if it was self defence or not.

 

Where did you used to train sounds like one hell of dojo ? Who was your instructor ?

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Empty space is to be attacked yes.

 

Why?? What's it ever done to you?

 

If they leave a gap (space) between them and a target on the body then attract it, even better the space behind them.

 

Attract it? How do you attract a gap, and, why would you want to?

 

 

 

even better the space behind them. We do not hit a space on a body,

That could be where you're going astray- in martial arts you're supposed

to hit the body, and, where possible, not be trying to hit the empty spaces.

 

 

 

so even a inch punch will do big damage if you are hitting behind them.

 

Only if it makes contact though: if you're hitting behind them it sounds like you may be slipping back into the 'attacking the empty spaces' mentality

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Put it this way, Wing Tsun came before Wing Chun....

 

As I said I am not at that level only been doing it a few years, but seen it here many times.

 

WT is NOT a self defense martial art, we do not defend we attack any space given, we do not fight force with force as at some point someone will always be stronger than you, we use their force against them.

 

Yes I think you are right it was developed by Leung Ting a former student of Yip Man.

 

What? those two statements aren't compatible- If one is true the other can't be, and, vice-versa :huh:

 

Is it a koan?

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