One of our favorite places to stand and stare as kids, was in Kenyons toy shop window, full of all the latest Dinky toys etc, anyone else remember this magical place?

What's there now?

I don't know Tiffy, I live in Scarborough now, but it was the one above the cheapo shop on the corner of the Cresent.

Hey I remeber Kenyons..I was a paperlad working there in 1953..
it was next to the cobblers shop..I used to fancy the cobbler daughter..I think they called her "Ann"....have I got the right place ????....Does anyone remember Freddy Bennet's Granny, calling out for him every evening at sunset..Freddy lived in the little cottage next to the Horseshoe..it later became part of the Pub...some times we could hear her calling from as far away as the golf course down by Woolywoods...Fredeeeeeeeeeeeee.

I can well remember Kenyon's on Bellhouse Road, I have spent many hours there with my nose pressed against the window wishing that my pocket money would go up ten-fold.

I also remember Allen's bike shop around the corner opposite Firth Park (is it Firth Park Road?).

I spent even more hours there!

I'm getting confused now..I thought Kenyons was up near shiregreen post office on Bellhouse Rd in a group of about 8 or10 shops...But I now realize it was at the bottom of Bellhose on the left near Firth Park bottom and there used to be a pet shop there as well, that sold tortoises...and I remember a small bakery on the corner of Bellhouse Rd and Windmill lane where we school kids could buy a penny loaf.

Yes, remember the bakery, 1p Hovis was all all the rage with school kids, the best bakery was Styans at the bottom of Bellhouse where the Nottingham Building Soc is now. And of course, super pork pies at Friedrich,s, don't think I have spelt that right!

I remember reading in the Star just a few years ago that someone had bought the place, and in the attic they found a lot of toys still in their original boxes. They were auctioned off and made quite a lot of money I believe.

I always thought kenyons was the same shop where rons greeting cards now is.
could be wrong though.

I remember the shop- full of quality toys, such as Britain's soldiers, and farm/zoo animals, Dinky cars and Hornby Trains. It was like a miniature version of Redgates. How very different to the ugly, vulgar stuff available for kids today.

I loved that shop, full of goodies I could'nt afford, the only time I did'nt like it though, was when Mr Lamb, our headmaster sent me there to buy a new cane, which he wacked me with on returning to school, happy days eh!!

Yes I remember Kenyons,in the 1960s they once had a promotion when yo yos were all the craze, a chap came up to the playground at Shirgreen school on Bracken road,he did a Brilliant Demonstration, doing about 20 different tricks with a yo yo.
He then told us you can get the Best yo yos at Kenyons.

Also regarding Timbucks reference to Freddy Bennett who lived in the cottage on Bellhouse road,next to the Horseshoe,he was my Uncle.
Timbuck I have sent you a pm with info.
Cheers Steve

get a life kenyons was a money making concern they are in spain now soaking up the SUN

Hi all,

Been so long since I left that the only shop name I remember is Snelson`s Radio and TV etc at Firth Park; and that is because I worked there as a teen for a while. Probably even spelling that incorrectly too. Ah, and next door (up) was a mixed grocery owned by the man who had a driving school- with Triumph Heralds. His son ran the shop and drove a thumping big 16 cylinder, Railton Special.
Looked like a white German staff car. Huge bonnet as it was 16 in-line cylinders. Was it Malcolm???

BTW stevenorfolk, which school was Shiregreen school?
I went to Hadfield House and I think the other was Hartley Brook. I left in the 1960s so it has been a while and most of the mind doors are bolted shut. Reading the site posts is causing this (ahem!) unusual feeling in my ribs area!

I remember the Gaumont and the other theatre (somewhat) and I think the Roxy was left at the roundabout towards...?

Its 3.15am here so I might have to go sleep.

Definately wasn't me with the Railton special! one of those now would be worth a small fortune. Some of the other shops on the go at the time were:- Wigfalls tv shop, Bensons sweet shop, The Maypole grocery store, Styanns bakery, Allens cycle shop, Dewhurst butcher's, Friedrichs pork shop, and round the corner on Sicey Ave, the Paragon cinema, our local!

This is the 3rd time I`ve tried - my ISP has cut me off again this last time to tell me about a WONderfull new service blah blah blah..and this is at 11pm at night!! Hows that grab yer??

To begin again. How could I have forgotten the Paragon and the Saturday matinee. I think it cost ninepence when I was about ten?
Wigfalls was I think `Wiggy`s`, ??

The Railton used 2 gallons of juice to get from his home to the shop 1 (one) mile away!! He lived on a side street off, was it Infirmary Road - up from the hospital?

Have tried to locate my old school of Hadfield House but the only thing listed is a HaTfield Primary!! Who stole my school??
`Golly` Golland (Heartbeats ex publican) was my classmate ( I lied about my age to get into school though((cough)).
I`ll start a new post for the rest as it`s not really on topic and my ISP will surely cut me off again- Twilight Zone stuff.

just found this thread..I used to deliver papers for Kenyons ( Sorry, my brother's just reminded me that the paper shop was called Henthorns!!)which was a paper shop ,the first shop in a row of shops which included the post office situated below Hartly House WM Club,( he's also reminded me that it wasn't the first shop,that was a chip shop, next a cobblers thenHenthorns) I also delivered papers for Eric Cater of Patmore road (his dad sold papers from a handcart at the bottom of Bellhouse Road) I lead a strike for more money which didn,t last long as he delivered all the papers himself, other paper lads were Harry Howarth, Derek Lister, Frank Heppenstall,"Jacky" Cooper ,Arthur Woolen and Derek wigglesworth..I know Derek and Harry are no longer with us and Frank and I joined the Royal Navy in 49 (last contact in Hull in 70s). I lived in a house opposite Alans bakehouse on Windmill Lane (the shop was on the corner) and earned a coin by shoveling delivered coke into the boiler room.

Originally posted by desmitch
just found this thread..I used to deliver papers for Kenyons which was a paper shop ,the first shop in a row of shops which included the post office situated below Hartly House WM Club, I also delivered papers for Eric Cater of Patmore road (his dad sold papers from a handcart at the bottom of Bellhouse Road) I lead a strike for more money which didn,t last long as he delivered all the papers himself, other paper lads were Harry Howarth, Derek Lister, Frank Heppenstall,"Jacky" Cooper ,Arthur Woolen and Derek wigglesworth..I know Derek and Harry are no longer with us and Frank and I joined the Royal Navy in 49 (last contact in Hull in 70s). I lived in a house opposite Alans bakehouse on Windmill Lane (the shop was on the corner) and earned a coin by shoveling delivered coke into the boiler room. You must remember "The Bond Family" who lived a few doors up from you, I went to School with Frank Bond he had quite a few Brothers and Sisters I remember.

Yes I remember the Bond family (lived two doors away) but I beleive the lads were a bit younger than us and I don,t remember them at Shiregreen school and we never really came into contact

Wasn't there a barber's on Bellhouse, or close by? I used to
go on Saturday's (a bit cheaper) in the 40's when I was 11
or so. It was busy. Always sweeping up the hair. And they
did singeing.

Yes there was a barbers near the Kenyons toy shop , bottom of Bellhouse road,(on the left)I think most of the barbers did singeing at that time.As a lad waiting for a haircut I could hear the barber asking his customers if they wanted "anything for the week end"bit of a mystery at the time ( again my brother has reminded me that this was the Paragon barbers next to Wigfalls!!

Mention of the Bond family brings back memories, Mrs Bond was a huge fat woman, I can't remember what I had done, probably cheeked her or something, but I can remember this huge hand giving me a scuff round the ear, sent me dizzy for a while.
Hope this is not too derogatory, but I always remember them as a bit of a "scruffy family".
The barbers also was the place where I had my hair cut, always a queue, so they must have been popular.

Malc,
did you know any of the following.Frank heppenstall,Harry Howarth,Derek lister or any of the Rooker family?

Hi! Desmitch, the name Dereck Lister rings a bell, did he go to Shiregreen Sec Mod? The Bonds all did, bit of a scruffy crowd, I always wondered what happened to one of my old buddies, Terry Lomas, don't know if that name rings any bells for you?

Malc,
I dont know terry Lomas but I'll ask my brother ( we both went to Shiregreen, he a bit later than me.) all my old pals with the exception of Harry howarth went to Shiregreen .then there was the Wrigglesworth Family (oposite St Hildas church) and the Mellors.oposite the steps to Patmore road

Hi! des, I think looking back at previous posts you left school before me, i'm just a "baby" at 63 ha! ha! I remember Eric Cater though, he was in same class as me, and I remember buying penny Hovis's at Alans bakery, we left school in summer of 58. I used to live on Bellhouse Rd, number 89, you may have known Stan Crow who lived next door, he was about 4yrs older than me, talking of bakeries, our favourite was Styanns at the bottom of Bellhouse, and the lovely pork pies at Friedriches, think i've spelt that wrong though.
I haved lived in Scarborough for the last three years, but the last time I visited Firth Park it seemed to have changed a great deal.
However, I still have a great painting of a tram going through the island to keep memories alive!

Yes Malc,
you.re even younger than my bro .Where abouts on Bellhouse Rd did you live.? I remember the Thickitts ,lived on Bellhouse just below alan's bread shop.I now live in Tingley Nr Leeds but I was there at Bramall lane yesterday watching the same old let downs and just bought my season ticket for next season..It must be someting in the blood!!

Originally posted by desmitch
Yes Malc,
you.re even younger than my bro .Where abouts on Bellhouse Rd did you live.? I remember the Thickitts ,lived on Bellhouse just below alan's bread shop.I now live in Tingley Nr Leeds but I was there at Bramall lane yesterday watching the same old let downs and just bought my season ticket for next season..It must be someting in the blood!!
Tony Thicket..He was in my class at school..He had a mate called
Stewart Grainger..I also remember a lad who lived on Windmill
called David Oxley..and there was Terry Hopley who lived in the Yard at the Back of the Cobblers on Bellhouse..And can you remember Jack Arno the hardest lad in Shiregreen School and the best dressed.

David Oxley was younger than me ( and I think he had a younger sister)but the Oxleys' lived on the other side of the Windmill lane,next to the Heppenstalls (same side as the Bakehouse) you had to go down steps to them and attached to the heppenstalls (by the side of the steps going down to Patmore rd) lived a welshwoman(forget her name but "shettler rings a bell) where I stored my BSA 350 in her shed whilst in the navy (and it never got nicked).There was a lad called Harrold earwaker lived in those houses facing the co-op at the end of Windmill lane, he suffered from fits and when he was with us one of us carried a spoon to put between his teeth when he had one

I lived at no89 Bellhouse, opposite side to Allans bread shop, it was only a couple of houses up from the Council offices, does anyone remember the shop which sold model stuff, aeroplanes etc, it was later a sweet shop, next one up from Huddarts?
You mentiond the Caters Des, now the brain cells have clicked, it was Ronald Cater in our class, not Eric, sorry if a long period of time goes by before answers, this retired life is very intensive!! so I have a look on the Forum now and then inbetween playing hard, it might sometimes be a week or so before looking at latest posts.
I'm always amazed when some retired people say they are bored, how can they find enough time to be bored?

Malc,There was a sweet shop on your side of bellhouse rd I think it was called Bensons. One early morning after a night of bombing my mates and I grabbed all the sweets we could carry out of the shop front window ,which had been blown out,only to find that they were all wooden immitations.Then we went to Shiregreen School which had been bombed too thinking that our schooldays where over for a while..Not a bit of it..Someone came up with the bright Idea of schooling in private homes..The war at that time wasn't going too well for kids!!

Yes, Bensons sweet shop was there for donks, after that, some time in late 50s, it was taken over by a chap called Jack Lundy, who was a model aeroplane enthusiast, and opened his own model shop, a bit on the lines of "Hobbies" in town. I don't think he lasted all that long, but was a big mate of my dad, Mick Smith, who used to go with Jack and a few others flying control line models in the park.
The boating lake was also popular at this time next to Firth Park Library, they would all congregate there with boats powered by diesel engines and have a right old time.
I can remember dad having one of the first radio control boats, very basic, left rudder, ahead and right rudder, and every time a tram went past, if the trolley sparked, the boat would change course. Happy days!

Hi, have just joined this site and have enjoyed reading about Bellhouse Rd. etc. I attended Shiregreen School when it was bombed and remember going for lessons in in other pupils houses, by the time the lady of the house had made the teacher a cup of CAMP coffee and we had looked around to see if they had anything better than we had it was trime to go home. Anyone remember Miss Fincham-the dragon teacher???

Yes, Miss Fincham was my teacher in my final year at school(1958), in many ways, I quite admired her with the benefit of hindsight, she coped in what was a mans world with a disability, took some doing in those days.
Do you remember when she would conduct during assembly, anyone sat crossed legged on the hall floor would have to be ready to duck.
Another formidable lady teacher was Miss Somerset, I always thought she looked like my granny!

I do recall Miss Fincham and Mr Dobson the head teacher and Mr Bennett (good with the cane) and best of all (for the boys) was Miss Williams the PT teacher, god I remember those thighs.But what was the woodwork teacher called?

Mr. Dobson was one of the best. Miss. Williams (Kay) was our
PT mistress and we won the Sheffield Shield at the final for all the competing schools in Sheffield.
Is there anyone out there who was on the winning team???.

SORRY---we won the Shield for Netball

Our woodwork teacher was Mr Paige, other names I can remember were Mr May, Mr Yates, Mr Tyndale, Mr Loveday, and the head in my time was Mr Lamb.

Mr Dobson was a Gent..Mr Lamb was not..in fact he ruled by fear... And Miss "Fanny" Fincham's classroom was left of the stage in the main hall, where she looked after the "senior girls" teaching them all about womens stuff, like sewing and how men were evil...I daren't go within 20 yards of her classroom in case she came out and shouted some sort of abuse at me.
She was only "four foot tall" but she scared the s*** out of me.
Mr Yates was the "Science" teacher (we called him "Boris") and Mr Tyndale was the Tech Drawing teacher they both had classrooms at the bottom of the Girls playground in wooden huts..also there was a "Cook house" down there where meals were prepared for the Junior School next door, I can still remember the "typical school dinner" of sliced beef (with gristle)
mash and butter beans and slices of beetroot with beatroot juice mixed with the thick brown gravy..there was no canteen, we had this on our classroom desk.
And finaly in the winter, remember the little frozen bottles of milk that we had to thaw out on the radiators before we could drink it.

Hiya all, my dad lived on Jessamine Road and attended Shiregreen, until he passed his 11+ and went to Firth Park Grammar. His name is Jack Jessop, or he might have been known as John then. He's always telling stories about the area.

Interestingly, just before we moved to Scarborough three years ago, I was told that a reunion was held, and Mr Lamb attended, well into his 90s, I wish I had been told about it before the event rather than after.
Miss Fincham retired shortly after I left school in 58, she lived at the top end of Abbeydale Rd and I called in to see her with my girlfriend at the time, now my wife, she was really touched that someone had taken the trouble to see her and made us really welcome. I got the impression that she was a little lonely, school was probably her entire life.
I certainly remember the milk, I used to love it and always took advantage of seconds if available, talking of frozen milk, I used to love putting some "national health orange juice" in an egg cup with a stick in it outside at night when it was frosty, waking up to a home made lolly.
We always new when it was freezing as it made a pattern on the inside of the bedroom window, no central heating in those days! mum would say "look! Jack Frost has been"

Just dug out a "star" special publication dated Mon 21st November 1994.headed "Days gone by"One of the pics is of Windmill lane and has the row of terraced houses where I lived with alans bakehouse on the oposite side of the road, its headed " Junction of Bellhouse Rd and Windmill Lane on the 'Old' Shiregreen estate before 1914.. but this must be a mistake..I dont think the estate was built until 1930.There's another pic which looks like Bevercoates Rd following a bombing raid. I've tried scanning but it comes out unclear

I think Kenyons is now where the new newsagents is now on Bellhouse Road and not Rons.

couldn't someone in the Shiregreen area nip out with the old digital and take a few pics of some of the shops on Bellhouse and lets all have a shufti?

Originally posted by little malc
One of our favorite places to stand and stare as kids, was in Kenyons toy shop window, full of all the latest Dinky toys etc, anyone else remember this magical place?
i remember when he had a barbers shop thruogth the back

Originally posted by desmitch
Malc,There was a sweet shop on your side of bellhouse rd I think it was called Bensons. One early morning after a night of bombing my mates and I grabbed all the sweets we could carry out of the shop front window ,which had been blown out,only to find that they were all wooden immitations.Then we went to Shiregreen School which had been bombed too thinking that our schooldays where over for a while..Not a bit of it..Someone came up with the bright Idea of schooling in private homes..The war at that time wasn't going too well for kids!!
do you rember when a used get in his ford car it was a small
on i think it was a prefect it used to go down on one
i thougth he was a smashing blook i lived on bevercotes at that
time and went to shiregreen schooll left in 1944 was in mr chapmans class

Originally posted by desmitch
just found this thread..I used to deliver papers for Kenyons ( Sorry, my brother's just reminded me that the paper shop was called Henthorns!!)which was a paper shop ,the first shop in a row of shops which included the post office situated below Hartly House WM Club,( he's also reminded me that it wasn't the first shop,that was a chip shop, next a cobblers thenHenthorns) I also delivered papers for Eric Cater of Patmore road (his dad sold papers from a handcart at the bottom of Bellhouse Road) I lead a strike for more money which didn,t last long as he delivered all the papers himself, other paper lads were Harry Howarth, Derek Lister, Frank Heppenstall,"Jacky" Cooper ,Arthur Woolen and Derek wigglesworth..I know Derek and Harry are no longer with us and Frank and I joined the Royal Navy in 49 (last contact in Hull in 70s). I lived in a house opposite Alans bakehouse on Windmill Lane (the shop was on the corner) and earned a coin by shoveling delivered coke into the boiler room.
i dont know but i am a woollen still knocking about live in rotherhan now i thiink it was ron cater eric was his son

Originally posted by dowkeruk
Wasn't there a barber's on Bellhouse, or close by? I used to
go on Saturday's (a bit cheaper) in the 40's when I was 11
or so. It was busy. Always sweeping up the hair. And they
did singeing.
do remember that hole they used to sweep it down
i think the barber was called larry

Originally posted by little malc
Mention of the Bond family brings back memories, Mrs Bond was a huge fat woman, I can't remember what I had done, probably cheeked her or something, but I can remember this huge hand giving me a scuff round the ear, sent me dizzy for a while.
Hope this is not too derogatory, but I always remember them as a bit of a "scruffy family".
The barbers also was the place where I had my hair cut, always a queue, so they must have been popular.
you had to careful if she torn round sharp
knock your head off

Originally posted by desmitch
Malc,
I dont know terry Lomas but I'll ask my brother ( we both went to Shiregreen, he a bit later than me.) all my old pals with the exception of Harry howarth went to Shiregreen .then there was the Wrigglesworth Family (oposite St Hildas church) and the Mellors.oposite the steps to Patmore road
i went to schooll with tom mellor

arthur didn't you knock about with Harry Wills?

Originally posted by desmitch
arthur didn't you knock about with Harry Wills?
no it was eric wornes joe massy

Hi all, just found the site and I've really enjoyed reading this topic and reminicing. I still live in Wincobank and have lived in the surrounding area for 40 years. Kenyons toy shop brought back great memories, I bought all my daughters dolls house funiture there. Rons card shop is the same shop and Ron and his wife (presumably Kenyons) still run the place although his son manages most of it. Firth Park shopping area has altered so much in the last 10 years you wouldn't recognize it, unfortunately not for the better. I went to Hatfield House Lane Sec. which is now known as Firth Park Community Coll. it was until recently Firth Park Comp. a split site school combined with what used to be Firth Park Grammar.

Any questions I'll try to answer.

Hey Malc, I remember Kenyons. Used to try and drag me mother across Belhouse Road from her shopping to buy me a toy. Am a big boy now and found 'other' things to play with

I used to get luminous paint at a shop on Bellhouse in the forties. Was this Kenyon's? Also those metal bombs in two parts that one put a cap between, tightened and threw in the air to crack on hitting the ground. There was also a craze at Hartley Brook school for making small ornaments, badges etc out of pins and coloured narrow plastic tubing. I bought this stuff there too.

Originally posted by tara
I always thought kenyons was the same shop where rons greeting cards now is.
could be wrong though.
when i was a lad where rons shop is now i was a watch menders next door was a wine shop then keyons had two shop windows a toy shop and a tobacconists come barbers ect

Just managed to get back on line after a break of a couple of months, flamin pc,s, some toys just get more complicated!
Yes, I remember the two part metal bombs, everyone seemed to have one at one time, I always used to look at the Dinky model planes, trouble was they were always beyond my pocket money.
Making up for lost time though, am just starting to build a model railway in the loft, who was it who said little boys never grow up!

Yes, the metal bombs! they were great but I think the making and using of a "touch wood" burner (who gave it that name?) was more satisfaction. Made out of an oblong lump of hollowed out clay with holes in the side (for blowing through) and filled with dried decayed tree wood. Light it and All it did was make smoke and get your eyes sore and your face filthy.Your mum would play Hell accusing you of having been at the touch wood again. And thats about as bad as it got!!

I,m sure it would be looked upon with horror nowadays, but I can recall dropping a lit "penny cannon" down the local grate, and hearing a very deep satisfying "wump".
This is when the only fireworks you could buy were British made:- Brocks, Standard, Lion etc, and we could actually get jumping jacks, all would be regarded now as highly dangerous.
A shop I visit sometimes in Whitby, specialises in vintage toys( that describes us dos,nt it, vintage!) and seeing the Dinky Meteor jets, etc brings back all the longing I used to feel looking in Kenyon,s window.
So far I have managed to resist buying anything, my other half thinks I am well on my way to second youth( I wish)

Originally posted by little malc
Definately wasn't me with the Railton special! one of those now would be worth a small fortune. Some of the other shops on the go at the time were:- Wigfalls tv shop, Bensons sweet shop, The Maypole grocery store, Styanns bakery, Allens cycle shop, Dewhurst butcher's, Friedrichs pork shop, and round the corner on Sicey Ave, the Paragon cinema, our local!

Originally posted by Windmillgal


The Maypole grocers was actually the Meadow - lots of huge tins of biscuits, slab butter etc - yummy!

The tins of biscuits in the Maypole bring back memories of the huge bag you could get if you picked the broken ones.
I can also remember having to take the ration book for sweets, which were still on ration in the 50,s.
Each shop on Bellhouse at that time certainly was individual, not like today where the same few shops cfop up regardless of where you may be in the country.

kenyons toy shop-remember it well but cant pinpoint the exact spot.-i think its where the travel agents is now which is near rons card shop in the middle of bellhouse road at firth park.there was also another ace toy shop run by mrs seymour on stubbin lane.no need to go shopping up town in those days!!:) the barbers shop still stands just past rons who used to work there cutting hair years ago--it used to be called the paragon barbers now known as graemes.:)
not much else left though now its really gone downhill as a shopping centre.:( wile i think on does anyone remember allens cycle shop next to the old post office round the corner at the bottom of the rounabout on firth park road?

I recall all the shops on lower Bellhouse road being closed and all the houses being evacuated whilst the bomb disposal squad made safe a landmine which had landed just above the park entrance (where prefabs were subsequently built).We all stood on upper Bellhouse whilst this was going on and then ran down to see them roll the bomb casing into a ditch and set fire to it..There was certainly lots going on during the war!

hi,
talking bout the shops at firth park shopping centre --does anyone remember the mikado drinks shop? i think it was where the cheap booze place is just down from the trustees bank on stubbin lane.
it was brilliant!!!-i remember going in with my brother and sister with mum for a drink of hot peppermint cordial in the winter and refreshing sasparella in summer!
it was run by two lovely old ladies and we also used to buy the old chix bubblegum football cards from there--always hoping that one day we'd find a united or wednesday player amongst them!!. i remember it still being there in the early sixties and it was one of my favourite shops eva!!
i also used to get 2lb of potatoes every saturday morning from greens the grocers just a few shops down--mr green used to fill my mums bucket bag with the afore mentioned vegies.
i seem to remember he was related to mr smith who ran the grocers shop on bellhouse for years until retiring a short time ago.

The land mine that did not explode was on Hucklow Rd.
Apparently a sailor who was home on leave dissabled it by taking out the "FUSE" or whatever.
The local people took up a collection and purchased a watch for him, by this time he had returned to duty, they made enquiries so that a formal presentation could be made but this was turned down as the authorities said he was just doing his duty.
Subsequently the bomb squad removed it.

Never did find out what happened to the watch.!!!!

Cheers, Cynthia, Ontario, Canada.

Some sailor!! I'm ex Royal Navy (joined whilst still living on Windmill Lane) and you certanly wouldn't have got me near a bloody land mine or its "detonator"

hi cynthia,
im living on hucklow road now, im so glad i wasnt then!:) thanx for that bit of info---i hadnt heard about it before until i read one of the threads the other day and thanx to you i know even more now!:thumbsup:
cheers!!

Hi Desmitch- I too lived on Windmill Lane, when we were bombed out with the land mine at the corner of Heather Rd & Foxglove Rd. we lived in the basement of St. Hida's church with a lot of other families, until we got pitch paper on the windows and a tarpaulin on the roof. Only privacy was a row of chairs between us and the next family. !!!!!!!!.

Cynthia, Ontario, Canada.

Hello Cynthia,
St Hildas was my church (in my religious youth) and I was a server there for a while, also in the church lads brigade as a drummer ( I didn't have a drum just the sticks).I think I was next in line for a drum after we had managed to scrounge some more cash!!but I think it disbanded..and yes I'd forgotten about that land mine..You must have lived at the "posh" end of Windmill!!

Hello Desmitch- In those days I do not think that anyone thought that anyone was posh, it was a different era wasn't it ?. You didn't have to lock the back door wondering if the house was going to be burgled, I didn't know anyone that owned a car so cars being broken into was unknown.
When some of my friends got a bike for Christmas I supose that was being POSH, my father died when I was 11yrs.old so my big brother bought me a Wiggys gas pipe on the weekly, I was then able to ride around with my friends.

No calculators, computers, Ipods, DVD's- I nearly forgot- NO TV.
Now I know why no one broke in- there was nothing worth stealing !!!!!!!!!!!!.

Happy Days ??,
Cheers, Cynthia, Ontario, Canada where we can still leave the door unlocked.

I seem to recall that some distance past St Hildas and on the oposite side of the road were some houses which I feel must have been private as one of our teachers from shiregreen school lived in one, and am I right in thinking that the classes in the senior school were segregated? By the way I still go down to Sheffield as I am a season ticket holder of the blades , so if it is of any interest I could call and take some pics of any views which may be of interest to members of this thread (I,ll have to borrow my grandsons digi cam)

The private semi-detached were on the same side of the road as the Church, just before you got to Bevercotes Rd. I think that there were about 4 pairs then at the corner there was Mason's grocery shop. I lived opposite them and next door to us were the Walton family of 3 schoolteachers, Harold-Alan & Mary.
I used to go to watch the "Blades" with my big brother and then I met my husband to be and he was and we both still are MAD Unitedites. He is still put off eating his dinner when they lose!!!!!.
Cynthia, Canada.

Originally posted by desmitch
I seem to recall that some distance past St Hildas and on the oposite side of the road were some houses which I feel must have been private as one of our teachers from shiregreen school lived in one, and am I right in thinking that the classes in the senior school were segregated? By the way I still go down to Sheffield as I am a season ticket holder of the blades , so if it is of any interest I could call and take some pics of any views which may be of interest to members of this thread (I,ll have to borrow my grandsons digi cam) I left Shiregreen School in 1955 and the classes weren't segregated, but the School Yard was... Lads at the rear yard and Lasses in the other Yard ontuther side of the Airaid shelters ...There was a open gate between the two Yards but "Fanny Fincham" made sure no lads ever drifted across that border line.

Three ways pf getting to Firth Park shopping centre from Windmill Lane..Down Bellhouse road, Down the steps to Patmore road then either turn right and then left down Bellhouse Road or go down the steps by the "Warncliffe"and finaly,down Beavercoates.Great going down but not too clever coming back! (not a lot of people know that)

Been watching the blades for years (and I,ve got other faults) or supporting them when not being able to get to Bramall lane, whilst in the andrew,living in Tasmania ,Sydney and Richmond in North yorkshire.But only about 45 miles away now and easy to visit

I remember kenyons toy shop as well also does anyone remember revills sweet shop that used to be up the jennell on your way to horninglow road I used to deliver papers for him I remember going to the shop with my dad to buy our fireworks when you could get lots of fireworks for thirty shillings also used to love to go to paragon chipshop

hi ozgirl,
yeah remember revills well!--son neil used to be a pal of mine!---remember fred and harry revill taking it in turns to sell greenuns on corner outside yorkshire bank at foot of bellhouse road!---i myself used to deliver papers for greens and later barstows round the corner on the front!--still a newsagents to this day funnily enough!---the paragon chip shop is now called the codfather,also i used to spend many a happy couple of hours or so across the road at the paragon cinema!---those were the days:)
mikey:thumbsup:

Hi

I think you lived opposite ours now - Masons shop was taken over by Hagues many years ago - do you remember the Sleney and merry families?





The private semi-detached were on the same side of the road as the Church, just before you got to Bevercotes Rd. I think that there were about 4 pairs then at the corner there was Mason's grocery shop. I lived opposite them and next door to us were the Walton family of 3 schoolteachers, Harold-Alan & Mary.
I used to go to watch the "Blades" with my big brother and then I met my husband to be and he was and we both still are MAD Unitedites. He is still put off eating his dinner when they lose!!!!!.
Cynthia, Canada.

I remember Kenyons very well in the 60s, they used to have loads of corgi and dinky models in the window, also got my first train set from there, he used to have train sets set up in the rear room of his shop for you to view before buying.
It was my favourite shop as a kid, all those model cars and subbuteo etc, ah heaven, used to drag my mum and dad into that shop everytime we visited firth park.

Hi

i randomly found this site as i was looking for info on a family friend that has recently passed away.
my dad and his family lived on windmill lane for many years up untill recently.i was woundering if any of you knew them as they lived next door to the bond family.......which i might add that one member still lives there....richard bond. they also lived next door to the howarth family.
my dad is called philip waine and hes got a brother called brian and a sister called gloria. his parents are called ellen and cyril.

would be great to hear from somebody.

nicola

As mentioned earlier in the post, I certainly remember the Bond family! can't remember your family though nic.w, what years are we talking about?
The earlier mention of school dinners reminds me of sago pud with huge lumps, and even worse, "drainpipe pud" macoroni in milk, yuk!!

Was Kenyon's at the bottom of Bellhouse Rd on the right looking up from Firth Park, I ask because I remember , nose pressed to the window, longing to possess a chemistry set . I thought it was a wonderful thing.

Well i think my dad was born in 1950, so guess it would be the 50's and 60's. his brother brian is a bit older though.

Ah! your dad will be about seven years younger than me nic.w, I left Shiregreen Sec Modern as it was then in 1958, a flippin life time away!!

Hello Everybody
I'm fairly new to this site and I've only just found this thread - talk of Firth Park, Bellhouse Rd., Shiregreen Sec. Mod. School, etc., has brought on a bout of nostalgia, so I'll just get a few things off my chest.
First, Mr Lamb the tyrannical headmaster of Shiregreen- I can remember one day during morning assembly a boy said or did something that caused Mr Lamb to go into a rage (it was only something minor) and he had the lad come to the front near the stage. After some ranting and raving he then proceeded to cane the boy from up on the stage - that's right, he was up on stage and the boy was on the floor in front of the stage, so the cane must have travelled in a six foot or more arc before hitting the poor lad's hand two or three times. These days, he would have been done for assault and lost his job (and rightly, too).
I also remember Miss 'Fanny' Fincham from the late fifties - also Mr Law (Science, I think) and Miss Wild (English?). There was also a Student Teacher there the same year that I left (1961) called Miss Vernon, if memory serves. She was gorgeous and, as it was Christmas when we left, the lads went round all the female teachers with a sprig of mistletoe demanding kisses - Miss Vernon was the top of every lad's list!! I think she was an actress too - I'm sure she was in a couple of TV adverts in the early sixties.
I can certainly remember the Bonds, especially John Bond who was in my year. Other names that come to mind are Johnny Guest, Tom Morton, Leslie Brocklesby, Ann Eccles, Pat Littlewood. Ring any bells, anyone?
Happy Days, although nostalgia ain't wot it used t'be, right?
Joe

Welcome to the site joegraybsc, you mention Miss Wild, I remember she was "a bit of alright", can remember her doing the hand jive in the hall.
I also remember Mr Law, although my science teacher was mr Yates, who I quite liked, made some fantastic stinks in the wooden hut that was the science lab. I left in 1958, three years before you, my younger sister was still there in your time, Andrea Smith, if the name rings any bells.

I remember it well. In the sixties it was the second shop up from the corner of Firth Park Crescent. There were two parts to it. The tobacconist's where I assume it must have been Mr Kenyon himself used to work and the toy part where a little lady used to work. I used to get my pocket money every Saturday morning, which was half a crown. (2/6) I used to buy Airfix models there. There was a glass cabinet where they were displayed. I remember a Ford Cortina that had a part missing and the lady who worked at the shop trying to help me get in touch with Airfix. I eventually got a whole new kit. I used to spend Saturdays building the kits and my Mum used to paint them for me. I used to live on Bevercotes.

There used to be a Petshop very close to Kenyons..I bought a pet Tortoise there once...Anyone else remember the Name of the shop.

Snap! I remember the pet shop well, my sister and I also bought a tortoise there, but i'm blowed if I can remember the name of it.

Didn't Kenyon's also sell ciggies? I remember my mate Andy saving his paper round money and buying what we thought were exotic fags like Peter Stuyvesant, Gaulois and Camels - although we were under-age. Some of them used to stink like camels too.

I remember the shop really well. It was run by an old couple who really tried to help the customers. I bought loads of Britain's plastic soldiers from there:).

Does anyone remember that Marti Caine used to have cafe on Bellhouse Road? This would have been mid-70's. She used to serve there sometimes I recall. It was either the second or third down from the corner of North Quadrant. We were spoilt for choice with chipshops at Firth Park in those days, no wonder I'm addicted to chips still. The Paragon on Sicey was the one I liked best. There always seemed to be a queue there, and you'd get to the door where there was another room where all the old dears sat. And the sweet shop next to it. The Fine Fare opposite. Woolworth's next door. I remember going to a shoe shop on Bellhouse with my Dad for him to but some shoes. He took off his working boots, and he had a big hole in his sock...he says coolly to the assistant:"Excuse me "oily" sock love!" My sister still chuckles at that.

hi all, kenyons was the double sided shop which is now a beer off
the pet shop is petcare got sold in the last few weeks
still going to be a pet shop though
linda2

Hi all.
As an ex Hucklow Rd boy I found this site great,read all posts avidly.Remember Kenyons very well,brought a lot of memories back.I lived at number 70 in the old prefabs. I was a few years behind Mikeyspikey at Hucklow road school left Aug 1964 bound for Aus.Would love too see some pictures of Firth Park as it is now.
All the best.
Lostsoul.

Does anyone remember that Marti Caine used to have cafe on Bellhouse Road? This would have been mid-70's. She used to serve there sometimes I recall. It was either the second or third down from the corner of North Quadrant. We were spoilt for choice with chipshops at Firth Park in those days, no wonder I'm addicted to chips still. The Paragon on Sicey was the one I liked best. There always seemed to be a queue there, and you'd get to the door where there was another room where all the old dears sat. And the sweet shop next to it. The Fine Fare opposite. Woolworth's next door. I remember going to a shoe shop on Bellhouse with my Dad for him to but some shoes. He took off his working boots, and he had a big hole in his sock...he says coolly to the assistant:"Excuse me "oily" sock love!" My sister still chuckles at that.
my wife remembers marti caine's cafe on bellhouse but she thinks think it was a little earlier than mid seventies,She bought it from the people who had it as a bakery when my wife worked there in 1969. Marti always used to wear see through crocheted mini dresses

I always thought kenyons was the same shop where rons greeting cards now is.
could be wrong though.
when i was a lad ron card shop was a watchshop next to that was a wineshop
kenyons was a doubleshop one was a tobbanist a barber the other one a toy shop
on the corner i think it was a chemist at that time

Malc,
I dont know terry Lomas but I'll ask my brother ( we both went to Shiregreen, he a bit later than me.) all my old pals with the exception of Harry howarth went to Shiregreen .then there was the Wrigglesworth Family (oposite St Hildas church) and the Mellors.oposite the steps to Patmore road
i went to school with tom mellor i dont think i took papers round for henthorns
i worked for ron cater on patmore befor that revvils at firth park

I do recall Miss Fincham and Mr Dobson the head teacher and Mr Bennett (good with the cane) and best of all (for the boys) was Miss Williams the PT teacher, god I remember those thighs.But what was the woodwork teacher called?
my teacher was mr chapman class room top of the stairs ileft 1944

Three ways pf getting to Firth Park shopping centre from Windmill Lane..Down Bellhouse road, Down the steps to Patmore road then either turn right and then left down Bellhouse Road or go down the steps by the "Warncliffe"and finaly,down Beavercoates.Great going down but not too clever coming back! (not a lot of people know that)
i do i lived on bevercotes and everbody knew me and my mates round that area
and both chip shop on bellhouse rd mrs toppen a stringers had the house window shop

There used to be a Petshop very close to Kenyons..I bought a pet Tortoise there once...Anyone else remember the Name of the shop.
the pet shop i know was just up bellhouse from bevercotes rd in between the woolshop and waterhouses the photographers

you had to careful if she torn round sharp
knock your head off
The barber at Kenyons in the late 40's was my uncle,Douglas Mead. He fathered 11 kids so he obviosly he only cut hair and didn't supply "Anything for the weekend"

All this talk about Kenyons, Bellhouse Rd, Windmill Lane, the bakers on the corner etc brings memories trickling (wish I could say flooding ) back. Anyone old enough to fill in some of the blanks?? Oppsite side of Bellhouse fromthe corner bakers and just a little lower, was a school where I spent my first year. Known to me as the school on the hill I think it closed down as I then went (again very briefly i think) to shiregreen school...the junior bit. I finally ended up at Hatfield House Lne juniors.....wish I could remember more about those early days...roughly mid 30s to mid 40s.....hoping there are some survivors out there with stronger memories than mine........Karling

The Bread shop, called Alans' was on the corner of Bellhouse Road and Windmill lane. The Bakehouse owned by Alan's, I do believe suplied bread and cakes to other shops as well as their own.The ovens were coak fired and I earned a couple of bob shoveling in the coke each time it was delivered.
oposite the bread shop ( on Bellhouse) was a derelict stone house where they? had left the electrics on and as kids we would poke a long iron bar into the fuse box receiving a tingling sensation ( I think it was called electricution!).
The small infants school was just a little further down but I don't recall it being in use in my time (37 to 49), then a little further down was Bensons the sweet shop and below that, a hardware store.
On the bread shop side there were no shops until just before beavecotes Road.though Mr Cater (who sold papers from a cart at the bottom of Bellhouse) lived just below the breadshop (his son,Eric Cater, who most kids delivered papers for ,lived on Patmore Road)

You may recall that the Co-op took up quite a lot of space on Bellhouse Road, nearly oposite the bread shop.. the laundry, milk and bread deliveries ( my brother worked for all three) together with the Co-op shop itself and a bit further up Bellhouse were the stables (again where my brother fed and stabled the horses after a days work..The whole of that area was my stamping ground until I left with an old school mate to join the royal navy

THIS IS A REPLY FOR NIC.W

From about 1934 to 1946 ( if my memory serves me right I think the line up would have been as follows) Howarths (end house) Broughtons, Bonds,Bose, Mitchell, (next block) Rooker,dont know, Lister, dont know and lhe last one an end house,I really should know cus I used to go with an elder kid there to take his accumulater (battery) up Bellhouse every Saturday to get it charged. There wasn't a great deal of movement and I do know that some stayed for many years after I left in 49 and my brother died there about15 years ago.
Yes the Broughtons did leave and the wains moved in but I cannot remember when. I do recall That Mrs Waine was a good loking woman but I was going through my "noticing women" stage (Opposite the Howarths, with adjoining back gardens lived the Bloomers) Also to the side of Howarths in a row of houses facing Bellhouse Road lived the Earwakers, Harold (the son) was epileptic and one of us generally carried a spoon with us to stuff into his mouth when he was having one of his fits.
On the oposite side of the Lane were two sets of semis(I think) in the set next to the steps leading down to Patmore Road lived the Shettlers and next door,the Heppenstalls. In the semi next to Heppenstalls lived a family (whose name I should recall) they had a son and daughter, the son married and went to live in Perth WA, We were living in Tasmania at the time.

PS A. Woolen has jolted my memory... the one I should have remembered was called Tom Mellor ( A quiet spoken lad) I also now recall that on the next block to the Mellors was a "back Street bookie" what was his name?

Thanks desmitch....yes I remember the Co-op well. My father's family lived in that block of six(I think) houses between the co-op and the Henthorne's group. Their back gardens which seemed to stretch for miles ,bordered the land at the back of the coop. A housing development was built on this land a few years ago.
Was sent to Alan's bakery for bread many times when I was a kid.

I often think we should'nt be shy of revealing our ages in our profiles. I'm sure it would make it easier to equate with each other. My age is .....see my profile.

Does anyone remember that Marti Caine used to have cafe on Bellhouse Road? This would have been mid-70's. She used to serve there sometimes I recall. It was either the second or third down from the corner of North Quadrant. We were spoilt for choice with chipshops at Firth Park in those days, no wonder I'm addicted to chips still. The Paragon on Sicey was the one I liked best. There always seemed to be a queue there, and you'd get to the door where there was another room where all the old dears sat. And the sweet shop next to it. The Fine Fare opposite. Woolworth's next door. I remember going to a shoe shop on Bellhouse with my Dad for him to but some shoes. He took off his working boots, and he had a big hole in his sock...he says coolly to the assistant:"Excuse me "oily" sock love!" My sister still chuckles at that.

Yes, I remember the cafe of Marti's, she was once a member of the Sheffield Barbelles and a friend of mine. Such a lovely lass.

I always thought kenyons was the same shop where rons greeting cards now is.
could be wrong though.
when i was a lad i think the corner of the crescent was a chemist the it was kenyons then a wine shop fhen a watch makers two houses the a barbers the wigfalls a small shopwe called it the creamary then a butchers then hudsons hardware shop stringers chip shop carpet shop on the corner of bevercotes

The Bread shop, called Alans' was on the corner of Bellhouse Road and Windmill lane. The Bakehouse owned by Alan's, I do believe suplied bread and cakes to other shops as well as their own.The ovens were coak fired and I earned a couple of bob shoveling in the coke each time it was delivered.
oposite the bread shop ( on Bellhouse) was a derelict stone house where they? had left the electrics on and as kids we would poke a long iron bar into the fuse box receiving a tingling sensation ( I think it was called electricution!).
The small infants school was just a little further down but I don't recall it being in use in my time (37 to 49), then a little further down was Bensons the sweet shop and below that, a hardware store.
On the bread shop side there were no shops until just before beavecotes Road.though Mr Cater (who sold papers from a cart at the bottom of Bellhouse) lived just below the breadshop (his son,Eric Cater, who most kids delivered papers for ,lived on Patmore Road)

You may recall that the Co-op took up quite a lot of space on Bellhouse Road, nearly oposite the bread shop.. the laundry, milk and bread deliveries ( my brother worked for all three) together with the Co-op shop itself and a bit further up Bellhouse were the stables (again where my brother fed and stabled the horses after a days work..The whole of that area was my stamping ground until I left with an old school mate to join the royal navy

i remember going to that school on bellhouse but it was only sunday school
the old man what sold papers his son was called ron his son was called eric
then ron took the horseshoe pub on bellhouse any help

Arthur,
Are you saying that Cater the paper man who had his wheelbarrow at the bottom of Bellhouse was called Ron? and that his son (who lived on Patmore Rd) was called Eric and was the one most of us delivered papers for. He and his wife (with red blotchy legs through sitting too close to the fire) had one daughter who would be about 73 now