What city is the largest Sheffield or Leeds?

[shabba]

I always thought manchester was a bigger city and had more population than sheffield.

[Alastair]

I always thought manchester was a bigger city and had more population than sheffield.

 

I think Manchester is a much bigger city, just it gets split into Salford, Rochdale, Stockport, etc. It certainly has the feel of a big city unlike Sheffield.

 

 

 

The title of this thread should be "What city is the larger Sheffield or Leeds?"

[FriarTuck]

The population within the city boundary makes Sheffield a larger city, but it's not really a true reflection. The city of London's population is less than 10,000 but everyone knows it's a bigger city than either Sheffield or Manchester. If you look at a map of the UK and for example take a look at Hull, you'll see the shaded area that depicts the city, but in fact the city boundaries only forms a small part within the shaded area.

Areas of Manchester, e.g. Stretford, isn't included in the City of Manchester's population, yet its only 3 mile away from the Manchester city centre. Grenoside is 5 mile from Sheffield yet it is included in the City of Sheffield's population.

[Heyesey]

Sheffield's metropolitan-borough population, as at 1998: 531,100. Leeds' metropolitan-borough population, as at 1998: 727,400. No contest.

 

Leeds' urban area population as at 1991: (can't find the 2001 figures) 424,194. Sheffield's town population as at 1991: 431,607. Slightly in our favour.

 

 

In short, Leeds has vastly more outlying areas than Sheffield, and as a consequence has a far higher population. The actual city areas are much of a muchness.

 

Manchester has vastly more outlying areas than either of them, but those areas don't get classed as Manchester, due to the way councils are set up. If you took the whole urban conurbation to be "Manchester," the population would be close to two million. Birmingham, on the other hand, is nearly all Birmingham, which makes it easily the second-biggest city in England.

 

If the campaign to establish "Greater Sheffield" ever succeeded, and Rotherham/Barnsley/Doncaster got subsumed into it, we'd be bigger than Birmingham, and not far off the size of Greater Manchester.

[richjob]

2001 population figures for England (not including Scotland, Wales or NI)

 

1. London 7,172,091

2. Birmingham 970,892

3. Leeds 715,404

4. Sheffield 513,234

5. Bradford 467,665

6. Liverpool 439,477

7. Manchester 392,819

8. Bristol 380,615

9. Coventry 300,848

10. Leicester 279,921

[chris@25]

Sheffield's metropolitan-borough population, as at 1998: 531,100. Leeds' metropolitan-borough population, as at 1998: 727,400. No contest.

 

Leeds' urban area population as at 1991: (can't find the 2001 figures) 424,194. Sheffield's town population as at 1991: 431,607. Slightly in our favour.

 

In short, Leeds has vastly more outlying areas than Sheffield, and as a consequence has a far higher population. The actual city areas are much of a muchness.

 

Leeds doesn't have more outlying areas, it just has more nearby settlements included in the council boundary. You have to compare like with like, if you include the outlying areas like Morley and Otley in the Leeds figure then you should include places like Rotherham and Dronfield in Sheffield's figure.

 

And yes Manchester is hugely bigger than either Sheffield or Leeds if you do things properly instead of going on coucil boundaries (Liverpool is also larger).

[Guderian]

Come on, that is totally misleading.

 

Manchester has overtaken Brum and Englands "2nd city".

Sheffield doesnt even come close to competing in terms of size, facilities and "influence".

[chris@25]

2001 population figures for England (not including Scotland, Wales or NI)

 

1. London 7,172,091

2. Birmingham 970,892

3. Leeds 715,404

4. Sheffield 513,234

5. Bradford 467,665

6. Liverpool 439,477

7. Manchester 392,819

8. Bristol 380,615

9. Coventry 300,848

10. Leicester 279,921

 

These are council populations, apart from London, which seems to be the GLA figure. So you're not comparing like with like, and this list is essentially meaningless.

[richjob]

These are council populations, apart from London, which seems to be the GLA figure. So you're not comparing like with like, and this list is essentially meaningless.

 

The government, european union, local councils and other statutory bodies base their funding, spending and resources based on figures gained on the census. It is an accepted practice based on actual facts and figures of the population.

 

Where are you getting your information from ?

What facts do you have to back up any figures you claim ?

 

The size of a city is not based on what facilities it has or hasn't got and how good it is to live there, it i sbased on geography and population. By the way Dronfied is included in the Sheffield population figures.

[367squadron]

I thought the OP would want to know which city is the largest not in population but in area?