Ukip. All discussion here please.

[Ellco 10]

So you're saying UKIP policies don't matter and they have no intention of sticking to any of them - or is this is just a desperate attempt to avoid discussing them because you know they are not properly thought out and/or don't want to reveal that they actually only have "Policies for Only Some People".

 

For God's sake

 

How many more times, the manifesto isn't out yet...

 

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Are you calling UKIP candidates ignorant?

 

No, those who are trying to make a big issue out of notheing..

[dosxuk 10]

How many more times, the manifesto isn't out yet...

 

Then how come UKIP keep telling us what the other parties are going to do? And how come their supporters keep telling us that UKIP have forced them to change their policies?

 

If we can't criticise UKIP for not having a clue what their policies are or what they stand for because their manifesto isn't out, then it's ridiculous for you and UKIP to criticise the other parties for what their policies might be until they also release a manifesto detailing those policies.

 

Or are you trying to have it both ways again?

 

No, those who are trying to make a big issue out of notheing..

 

But it's the UKIP candidates who seem to be having trouble with identifying the party's policies, not just outsiders with no intention of voting for them.

 

 

 

 

Anyway, in other news - supporting UKIP loses you friends. A YouGov poll has shown that by supporting UKIP, your friends are more likely to want to disown you than if you start supporting any of the other westminster parties.

 

Figures show that 24% of people would find it difficult to continue being friends with someone who started supporting UKIP, compared to 7% for the tories, 5% for lib dems, 4% for the greens and just 3% for labour.

 

The results are even higher for previous voters of Labour and Lib Dems - with 32% and 36% respectively of people wanting to avoid being friends with UKIP supporters. Party for the people some say, more like party for Billy-no-mates...

 

 

 

And finally, YouGov's voting intentions survey results today has UKIP (17%) with only half of the support of Labour and the Tories (both 33%). Doesn't really reflect the claims of certain UKIP posters that support for Labour has collapsed does it...

[Ellco 10]

Then how come UKIP keep telling us what the other parties are going to do? And how come their supporters keep telling us that UKIP have forced them to change their policies?

 

If we can't criticise UKIP for not having a clue what their policies are or what they stand for because their manifesto isn't out, then it's ridiculous for you and UKIP to criticise the other parties for what their policies might be until they also release a manifesto detailing those policies.

 

Or are you trying to have it both ways again?

 

 

 

But it's the UKIP candidates who seem to be having trouble with identifying the party's policies, not just outsiders with no intention of voting for them.

 

 

 

 

Anyway, in other news - supporting UKIP loses you friends. A YouGov poll has shown that by supporting UKIP, your friends are more likely to want to disown you than if you start supporting any of the other westminster parties.

 

Figures show that 24% of people would find it difficult to continue being friends with someone who started supporting UKIP, compared to 7% for the tories, 5% for lib dems, 4% for the greens and just 3% for labour.

 

The results are even higher for previous voters of Labour and Lib Dems - with 32% and 36% respectively of people wanting to avoid being friends with UKIP supporters. Party for the people some say, more like party for Billy-no-mates...

 

 

 

And finally, YouGov's voting intentions survey results today has UKIP (17%) with only half of the support of Labour and the Tories (both 33%). Doesn't really reflect the claims of certain UKIP posters that support for Labour has collapsed does it...

 

I don't want to be your friend..

[Xt500 10]

Then how come UKIP keep telling us what the other parties are going to do? And how come their supporters keep telling us that UKIP have forced them to change their policies?

 

If we can't criticise UKIP for not having a clue what their policies are or what they stand for because their manifesto isn't out, then it's ridiculous for you and UKIP to criticise the other parties for what their policies might be until they also release a manifesto detailing those policies.

 

Or are you trying to have it both ways again?

 

 

 

But it's the UKIP candidates who seem to be having trouble with identifying the party's policies, not just outsiders with no intention of voting for them.

 

 

 

 

Anyway, in other news - supporting UKIP loses you friends. A YouGov poll has shown that by supporting UKIP, your friends are more likely to want to disown you than if you start supporting any of the other westminster parties.

 

Figures show that 24% of people would find it difficult to continue being friends with someone who started supporting UKIP, compared to 7% for the tories, 5% for lib dems, 4% for the greens and just 3% for labour.

 

The results are even higher for previous voters of Labour and Lib Dems - with 32% and 36% respectively of people wanting to avoid being friends with UKIP supporters. Party for the people some say, more like party for Billy-no-mates...

 

 

 

And finally, YouGov's voting intentions survey results today has UKIP (17%) with only half of the support of Labour and the Tories (both 33%). Doesn't really reflect the claims of certain UKIP posters that support for Labour has collapsed does it...

 

Or it doesnt reflect reality

 

After all sometimes the truth is hard to swallow

 

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Good, you've given us a tangible reason as to why you don't like one of the current government's policy. So what is the UKIP's policy on this subject, and why do you think it works better than the government's policy?

 

"UKIP believes in promoting self-reliance and personal freedom from state interference. We believe the state in Britain has become too large, too expensive and too dominant over civil society."

 

http://www.ukip.org/issues

 

 

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[Guest sibon]

 

As I said before it doesn't matter. We're all still voting UKIP. Get used to it, we're in for change.

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We really aren't all voting UKIP.

 

Roughly 85% of us have no intention of voting UKIP.

 

Nigel Farage needs to include compulsory adult numeracy lessons as a manifesto pledge.

[Xt500 10]

People are banging on about manifestos like they are written in stone by the other parties.

 

Heres an example.

 

Pre election promise......we wont put income tax up.

Actual..........orange juice taxed.fuel prices go from 80p litre to £1.20.

 

Its all kiddology but the difference with UKIP is they seem to believe what they say.The others look like their lying before they even open their mouths.

 

---------- Post added 24-11-2014 at 19:43 ----------

 

We really aren't all voting UKIP.

 

Roughly 85% of us have no intention of voting UKIP.

 

Nigel Farage needs to include compulsory adult numeracy lessons as a manifesto pledge.

 

where you got the figures from and just how were they calculated?

Edited November 24, 2014 by Xt500

[Guest sibon]

 

 

where you got the figures from and just how were they calculated?

 

Don't you worry about that.

 

It isn't as though you ever evidence any of your claims.

 

It wouldn't take you very long to find my evidence if you were genuinely interested though:rolleyes:

[Xt500 10]

Don't you worry about that.

 

It isn't as though you ever evidence any of your claims.

 

It wouldn't take you very long to find my evidence if you were genuinely interested though:rolleyes:

 

ha ha so your spouting ****** you know nothing about,as i thought!!

[Guest sibon]

ha ha so your spouting ****** you know nothing about,as i thought!!

 

If you say so.

 

Excellent debating skills, by the way.

[JFKvsNixon 11]

People are banging on about manifestos like they are written in stone by the other parties.

 

Heres an example.

 

Pre election promise......we wont put income tax up.

Actual..........orange juice taxed.fuel prices go from 80p litre to £1.20.

 

Its all kiddology but the difference with UKIP is they seem to believe what they say.The others look like their lying before they even open their mouths.

 

You do know the differences between income tax, and the other taxes, such as VAT and fuel duty?

[Xt500 10]

If you say so.

 

Excellent debating skills, by the way.

 

if your going to make up figures to use to bolster your rediculous claims then at least have the gaul to pretent your not an idiot.

 

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You do know the differences between income tax, and the other taxes, such as VAT and fuel duty?

 

There is little difference,we pay them all!

[Guest sibon]

if your going to make up figures to use to bolster your rediculous claims then at least have the gaul to pretent your not an idiot.

 

Don't judge everybody by your own, low standards.

 

And I'm not French either.

Edited November 24, 2014 by sibon