Tories General Election dilemma

[tallanddopey]

This isn't actually true. In the 1997 and 2001 elections, without the Scottish seats, Labour would still have had a majority in the commons.

 

that was a bit of backlash though to all that had gone on before, and 18 years of the torries.

 

although it is probably true, but if votes were not to change much over the next few years then the conservatives would win outright without scotland.

[WeX]

that was a bit of backlash though to all that had gone on before, and 18 years of the torries.

 

although it is probably true, but if votes were not to change much over the next few years then the conservatives would win outright without scotland.

 

Agreed but that is not what you was saying before. I also though this until another SF member pointed out the stats. The fact is, it will be harder but not impossible for Labour to gain an outright majority without the Scottish votes.

 

All of this is kinda speculative anyway as Scotland will not be going independent, that I'm sure of.

[chalga]

There aren't that many non-white people in Britain, and 65% of them would consider voting Tory as it is. So what dilemma?

 

From the 2010 General election:

 

 

Data shows that the Conservatives got 16% of ethnic minority votes, just ahead of the Liberal Democrats on 14%, while Labour got 68%. This is down from the 80% or more Labour has previously won, but came against the background of its worst electoral performance since 1918 as support slumped in all voting demographics.

[gluedtopc]

From the 2010 General election:

 

 

Data shows that the Conservatives got 16% of ethnic minority votes, just ahead of the Liberal Democrats on 14%, while Labour got 68%. This is down from the 80% or more Labour has previously won, but came against the background of its worst electoral performance since 1918 as support slumped in all voting demographics.

 

That's why Labour let all these people in, so they would get all these votes. If Cameron had any sense , he'd encourage Scottish independence and rid the Commons of a load of Labour MP's.

[Mecky]

Mecky this makes no sense. Why would people say the UK is over crowded due to people leaving? Are you also saying these people are none-white people making that claim?

 

The UK does have a high population density compared to most of the EU.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:EU_Pop2008_1024.PNG

 

That's migration into the UK not out of it

[chalga]

That's why Labour let all these people in, so they would get all these votes.

 

What's stopping the Conservatives getting their votes?

[WeX]

That's migration into the UK not out of it

 

So you mean immigration as opposed to emigration. Generally speaking "Migration" is the seasonal movement of animals.

 

---------- Post added 26-02-2014 at 15:28 ----------

 

What's stopping the Conservatives getting their votes?

 

Generally speaking, the people Labour actively encouraged into the country were low skilled workers. These people are generally not core Tory voters. They look to a party they feel will make their lives better and Labour has traditionally been the go to party of the least paid in society. This is where the "Importing" voters accusation comes from, but its pretty patchy considering many of the workers who have come to the UK do not qualify to vote in General Elections in the UK.

Edited February 26, 2014 by WeX