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What's fair?  

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  1. 1. What's fair?

    • Life's not fair
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    • Pull 'em down to my level
      4
    • Drag 'em up to my level
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I think the most frightening part of all of this, as has been said, is that someone actually came up with this rubbish and probably called for meetings, where other council leaders all sat around drinking cups of tea and agreeing "oh, yes that is a great idea, here you are, have a million pounds"

 

Crazy!

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The stupid buggers at the Council wouldn't know fair if it came up and bit them on the bum.

 

A million quid on this poppycock, while they're going round closing respite care homes. People are having to fight tooth and nail to get their elderly family members into the safety of a care home, because it's cheaper for the Council if they go back to their own homes and have 4 visits a day from "carers".

 

It doesn't matter that they can't manage at home, or are in danger of falling and hurting themselves, or that the "carers" will most likely pop in for 10 minutes, at random times of the day, if they're lucky.

 

As a feminist Lesbian, with mental health problems, I'm all for equality. But, as a former carer for my ma-in-law, I know just how difficult it is to cope, especially when you can't get any sort of break from caring responsibilities, because the funding isn't there.

 

I really don't want my Council Tax spent on stupid projects that are all wind and watter and will make absolutely no difference to the lives of people, but just provide the Council with a nice little "tick list" of all the things they've done to "help" promote fairness.

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The stupid buggers at the Council wouldn't know fair if it came up and bit them on the bum.

 

A million quid on this poppycock, while they're going round closing respite care homes. People are having to fight tooth and nail to get their elderly family members into the safety of a care home, because it's cheaper for the Council if they go back to their own homes and have 4 visits a day from "carers".

 

It doesn't matter that they can't manage at home, or are in danger of falling and hurting themselves, or that the "carers" will most likely pop in for 10 minutes, at random times of the day, if they're lucky.

 

As a feminist Lesbian, with mental health problems, I'm all for equality. But, as a former carer for my ma-in-law, I know just how difficult it is to cope, especially when you can't get any sort of break from caring responsibilities, because the funding isn't there.

 

I really don't want my Council Tax spent on stupid projects that are all wind and watter and will make absolutely no difference to the lives of people, but just provide the Council with a nice little "tick list" of all the things they've done to "help" promote fairness.

 

 

 

You are magnificent.:)

I liked Mojo too.:D

 

---------- Post added 30-01-2013 at 19:27 ----------

 

I think the most frightening part of all of this, as has been said, is that someone actually came up with this rubbish and probably called for meetings, where other council leaders all sat around drinking cups of tea and agreeing "oh, yes that is a great idea, here you are, have a million pounds"

 

Crazy!

 

"Have a million pounds of someones hard earned pay" ...It makes me sick to the stomach

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You are magnificent.:)

I liked Mojo too.:D

 

---------- Post added 30-01-2013 at 19:27 ----------

 

 

"Have a million pounds of someones hard earned pay" ...It makes me sick to the stomach

 

Small change compared to what this mob are getting away with.

http://www.mirror.co.uk/money/city-news/bankers-bonuses-rbs-pays-250m-1562901

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Orwell's revisionary words towards the end of Animal Farm come to mind: All animals are equal. But some animals are more equal than others.

 

The aims are laudable, but it does have more than tinge of political angling for position... and votes! It's early days though.

 

The following representatives of public sector and third sector organisations are the self-appointed Commissioners. They are all very worthy in their own right, and a few are eminent in their field.

 

But, alarmingly, we've noted that neither the Citizens of Sheffield, nor the private sector are represented, with the exception of the media and the Chamber of Commerce.

 

That doesn't seem very fair.

 

 

  • Professor Alan Walker (Chair), Sheffield University and Sheffield Health and Social Care NHS Foundation Trust
  • Professor Lee Adams, Deputy Chief Executive, Sheffield City Council
  • David Child, Chamber of Commerce
  • Jeremy Clifford, The Star Newspapers
  • Councillor Jillian Creasy, Leader of the Green Party, Sheffield City Council
  • Bishop Steven Croft, Diocese of Sheffield
  • Councillor Julie Dore, Leader, Sheffield City Council
  • Professor Del Fletcher, Sheffield Hallam University
  • Jessica Greenhough, Youth Council
  • Emma Hinchliffe (supporting Jess Greenhough), Sheffield Futures
  • Kate Housden, Third Sector Assembly
  • Professor Rebecca Hughes, University of Sheffield
  • Councillor Mazher Iqbal, Cabinet Member for Communities and Inclusion, Sheffield City Council
  • Morgan Killick, Social Entrepreneur
  • Elizabeth Lawrence, TUC Region
  • Tony Maltby, Sheffield 50+
  • Abtisam Mohammed, BME Network
  • Councillor Shaffaq Mohammed, Leader of the Liberal Democrats, Sheffield City Council
  • Dr Tim Moorhead, GP
  • Tony Pedder, Sheffield Teaching Hospitals
  • Steve Slack, Centre for HIV and Sexual Health
  • Tony Stacey, South Yorkshire Housing Association
  • Jacquie Stubbs, Centre for Independent Living
  • Jeremy Wight, Director of Public Health

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Orwell's revisionary words towards the end of Animal Farm come to mind: All animals are equal. But some animals are more equal than others.

 

The aims are laudable, but it does have more than tinge of political angling for position... and votes! It's early days though.

 

The following representatives of public sector and third sector organisations are the self-appointed Commissioners. They are all very worthy in their own right, and a few are eminent in their field.

 

But, alarmingly, we've noted that neither the Citizens of Sheffield, nor the private sector are represented, with the exception of the media and the Chamber of Commerce.

 

That doesn't seem very fair.

 

 

  • Professor Alan Walker (Chair), Sheffield University and Sheffield Health and Social Care NHS Foundation Trust
  • Professor Lee Adams, Deputy Chief Executive, Sheffield City Council
  • David Child, Chamber of Commerce
  • Jeremy Clifford, The Star Newspapers
  • Councillor Jillian Creasy, Leader of the Green Party, Sheffield City Council
  • Bishop Steven Croft, Diocese of Sheffield
  • Councillor Julie Dore, Leader, Sheffield City Council
  • Professor Del Fletcher, Sheffield Hallam University
  • Jessica Greenhough, Youth Council
  • Emma Hinchliffe (supporting Jess Greenhough), Sheffield Futures
  • Kate Housden, Third Sector Assembly
  • Professor Rebecca Hughes, University of Sheffield
  • Councillor Mazher Iqbal, Cabinet Member for Communities and Inclusion, Sheffield City Council
  • Morgan Killick, Social Entrepreneur
  • Elizabeth Lawrence, TUC Region
  • Tony Maltby, Sheffield 50+
  • Abtisam Mohammed, BME Network
  • Councillor Shaffaq Mohammed, Leader of the Liberal Democrats, Sheffield City Council
  • Dr Tim Moorhead, GP
  • Tony Pedder, Sheffield Teaching Hospitals
  • Steve Slack, Centre for HIV and Sexual Health
  • Tony Stacey, South Yorkshire Housing Association
  • Jacquie Stubbs, Centre for Independent Living
  • Jeremy Wight, Director of Public Health

 

 

Explain please why you gave up all your time to write that out.:huh:

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I could tell you a few things about one of that panel.......

 

I wonder which one earns the average wage of a Sheffielder? Is born and bred in Sheffield?

 

Am I been really negative ?

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EQUALITY - Hahaha, I'm forced to laugh because some Community Leaders in Sheffield don't understand the meaning of the word and until they do how can the city council ever expect Sheffield to become a 'FAIR' city?

 

In my opinion the idea of making Sheffield a ''FAIRER CITY FOR ALL'' is one great idea that will never happen.

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I thought this was a joke when i saw it on the star website at work this morning.It gave us all a good laugh at work having a morning coffee.All that time and effort to tell us that S7 is more affluent than S3 there are undiscovered life forms in the universe that knew that.SCC specialist subject "the bleeding obvious".Life is not fair full stop i have spent the last 30 years in and out of hospital constantly even at a stage where i was in constant pain all the time but i have now recovered.I could think why did it happen to me but instead i had a will to succeed and get on with it.If life was fair we would all be rich and fully fit but nature does not work that way.How does this minimum living wage work i imagine that the council has no power to force employers to pay a living wage.

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EQUALITY - Hahaha, I'm forced to laugh because some Community Leaders in Sheffield don't understand the meaning of the word and until they do how can the city council ever expect Sheffield to become a 'FAIR' city?

 

In my opinion the idea of making Sheffield a ''FAIRER CITY FOR ALL'' is one great idea that will never happen.

 

Sheffield should concentrate on being a fair city for all the people born and bred in Sheffield. It is our city.:):)

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"the commission the brainchild of sheffield city council leader julie dore" :hihi:

20 mph limit on residential roads . whats that got to do with fairness ? :loopy:

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The following representatives of public sector and third sector organisations are the self-appointed Commissioners. They are all very worthy in their own right, and a few are eminent in their field.

 

They may well be very eminent in their own particular field of 'expertise' but my guess is that if they were really pulling up trees in their own field they wouldn't have the time to attempt this patronising nannying job. That way they may, each individually, have a much greater effect in making this a better city (I don't necessarily think that fairer is always better) in real, sustainable terms than the top down approach that is clearly happening here.

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