jamesey   10 #1 Posted December 28, 2011 what a nightmare , my back brakes were stuck on so i stripped the rear drum off one side and took the shoes out , i found that the wheel cylinder had been stuck on one side i freed that up and put the cylinder ends back in but now ive come to fit the shoes there an nightmare do to not being able to get the springs back on , how is this done? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
RootsBooster   24 #2 Posted December 28, 2011 Can you not take the drum off the other side and look at how that one is assembled? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Ash.B Â Â 10 #3 Posted December 28, 2011 give me a ring and pay me to do it for you. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
HATHER-SAGE Â Â 10 #4 Posted December 28, 2011 what a nightmare , my back brakes were stuck on so i stripped the rear drum off one side and took the shoes out , i found that the wheel cylinder had been stuck on one side i freed that up and put the cylinder ends back in but now ive come to fit the shoes there an nightmare do to not being able to get the springs back on , how is this done?hi take the other drum off and copy how the springs go Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
jamesey   10 #5 Posted December 29, 2011 I know where they go I just can't get the springs back on Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
ka2010 Â Â 10 #6 Posted December 29, 2011 jamesey, if you havnt got the car sorted, give hather-sage a call (mick) he is a great fella and a fantastic mechanic! (and not expensive either) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
phawley   10 #7 Posted December 29, 2011 I usually put the springs on the shoes and then lever the shoes back into place. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
jamesey   10 #8 Posted December 29, 2011 Ill have another go tonight, the other thing is the brake fluid is dark green for some reason at the cylinder end Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
G-tech   11 #9 Posted December 29, 2011 Hi Jamesy, on most Ibiza's the easiest way to fit the rear shoe assembly is to remove the hub. It's a single nut (32mm I think, but may be bigger) then the hub should just slide off, be careful not to get any grit or dirt inside the hub. Now you can assemble the spings and shoes and just fit them straight on the back-plate. When they are secure, you need to tighten the hub nut to 70Nm then a further 30 degrees with a bar. Be careful not to overtighten by jumping on the bar as some DIY mechanics tend to when a torque wrench isn't available! It's always recommended to use a new hub nut also when possible.  Leave the shoes unadjusted when putting the drums on, adjust with a pointed tool or punch afterwards, through one of the bolt holes. Don't forget to tap the hub centre cap back on. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
Lab-rat   10 #10 Posted December 29, 2011 what a nightmare , my back brakes were stuck on so i stripped the rear drum off one side and took the shoes out , i found that the wheel cylinder had been stuck on one side i freed that up and put the cylinder ends back in but now ive come to fit the shoes there an nightmare do to not being able to get the springs back on , how is this done?  This web article may give you a few tips....  http://www.2carpros.com/articles/how-to-replace-rear-brake-shoes-and-drums   I must admit when you said 'springs' i was unsure if you meant the brake shoe hold down springs & assembly that hold each shoe to the backplate, or if you meant the brake shoe return spring & handbrake lever arm that usually fit across & between both of the shoes?  Hope the article helps! Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...
jamesey   10 #11 Posted December 29, 2011 (edited) Hi Jamesy, on most Ibiza's the easiest way to fit the rear shoe assembly is to remove the hub. It's a single nut (32mm I think, but may be bigger) then the hub should just slide off, be careful not to get any grit or dirt inside the hub. Now you can assemble the spings and shoes and just fit them straight on the back-plate. When they are secure, you need to tighten the hub nut to 70Nm then a further 30 degrees with a bar. Be careful not to overtighten by jumping on the bar as some DIY mechanics tend to when a torque wrench isn't available! It's always recommended to use a new hub nut also when possible.  Leave the shoes unadjusted when putting the drums on, adjust with a pointed tool or punch afterwards, through one of the bolt holes. Don't forget to tap the hub centre cap back on.  ok chap , ive been trying to do them without removing the centre hub/bearing , the top spring looked immposible , thanks ill be carrying on with it tomorow afternoon. Edited December 30, 2011 by jamesey Share this post Link to post Share on other sites Share this content via...