plekhanov Posted December 13, 2009 Share Posted December 13, 2009 You didn't, and neither did I, "just a belief, not an act", remember? So why did you say "No, simply a belief, not an act" in your previous post then if you weren't claiming I was suggesting that Jobee also performed idiotic acts?  You are clearly saying that jobee's beliefs are moronic. Your beliefs are different to his, so you call him moronic and idiotic.  You have managed to plant yourself firmly in his boat. How so? Expressing the opinion that someone is an idiot with moronic beliefs as I have done, is a completely different 'boat' to suggesting that beliefs you don't like should be criminalised as Jobee has done. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viney40 Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 So why did you say "No, simply a belief, not an act" in your previous post then if you weren't claiming I was suggesting that Jobee also performed idiotic acts?  How so? Expressing the opinion that someone is an idiot with moronic beliefs as I have done, is a completely different 'boat' to suggesting that beliefs you don't like should be criminalised as Jobee has done.  The only difference is your choice of narrative. Keep rowing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
[Matt] Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 The only difference is your choice of narrative. Keep rowing.I'm sure you can see that expressing your dislike for someone else's opinion is different than to wanting to ban anyone else opinion that you disapprove of? Thats the issue here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jobee Posted December 14, 2009 Author Share Posted December 14, 2009 That's a pretty lame answer if you're expecting anyone to take you seriously. How would you enforce the law? What would be the penalty for disobeying the law? Â No one would stop them reading the book of nonsense in their own homes, and praying to nothing could continue in private. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plekhanov Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 The only difference is your choice of narrative. Keep rowing. "your choice of narrative" What's that even supposed to mean? Â Jobee thinks that being religious should be a crime, I don't. That is a fundamental difference between us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plekhanov Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 No one would stop them reading the book of nonsense in their own homes, and praying to nothing could continue in private. And if they invite a few others to pray with them? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jobee Posted December 14, 2009 Author Share Posted December 14, 2009 And if they invite a few others to pray with them?  ITS their house, if they wish to study the book of nonsense in gangs I wouldn't  stop them, they would need more toilet paper, and maybe one extra toilet.  Crap would be in abundance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plekhanov Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 ITS their house, if they wish to study the book of nonsense in gangs I wouldn't stop them, they would need more toilet paper, and maybe one extra toilet.  Crap would be in abundance. And if they organise regular prayer meetings what then? What if they find a house isn't big enough and hire a hall? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jobee Posted December 14, 2009 Author Share Posted December 14, 2009 (edited) "your choice of narrative" What's that even supposed to mean? Jobee thinks that being religious should be a crime, I don't. That is a fundamental difference between us.  It wouldn't be enforced immediately, hints would be dropped. Like, the bible declared nonsense in PMs question time.  All those frocks/pimps removed from the lords, forthwith .  Holy spirits advertised on whiskey bottles.  And this placed in every UK city center.  Blind faith psychosis.Draft three  Psychosis and Money  What is it then that makes them pray, that makes them creep and crawl all day, that makes them read some silly script, their pride and confidence slyly stripped ?  What is it then that transfers their minds, to heavens and angels and spiritual kinds, to attend Cathedrals in little groups, then dress in robes as exemplar troops ?  What is it then that makes them build, on fertile land where food was tilled, huge Mosques; and Cathedrals too, just to sing and confess anew?  Does it help in anyway, to wile away the hours of day, dressed in best and on their knees, praying to anything and making pleas?  Is it selfishness that makes them think, we all need them to cower and shrink, on our behalf at their request, so that our souls be sublimely blessed?  The whiff of selfishness stirs the air, I think it’s just themselves they care, the work is easy and less to think, from competition they wilt and shrink.  This God they advocate with fuss, when ask for proof, they won’t discuss, O proof, O proof; what for you need ? the devils home you’ll go with speed.  My lucid mind begins to stir, I’m in the hands of a blackmailer, I only ask; for what your sales? they came back as hard as nails.  So business then shall prevail, In Woolworth’s by an honest sale, the Church an inquisition I think, proof of God surely brinks. jobee Edited December 14, 2009 by jobee Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
plekhanov Posted December 14, 2009 Share Posted December 14, 2009 It wouldn't be enforced immediately, hints would be dropped. Like, the bible declared nonsense in PMs question time.  All those frocks/pimps removed from the the lords, forthwith .  Holy spirits advertised on whiskey bottles.  And this placed in every UK city center.  <snip poem> It doesn't matter on what time scale it would be enforced or what kinds of "hint's" are "dropped" unlike you I'm completely opposed to criminalising being religious. As such you and I are very different.  Can you point to a single society that has enacted such a comprehensive repression of free expression and conscience of the kind you so hamfistedly propose with anything other than disastrous results? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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